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 Post subject: Help Needed
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:25 pm 
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During early morning warm up (engine idling) my dads 2006 crd liberty just quit! Good battery engine turns but will not start. Help Anyone ?

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 Post subject: Re: Help Needed
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:39 pm 
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I'm sure you will get better answers than this, but in my little experience with diesel engines it is almost always fuel flow that is the problem, given that's all a diesel needs to run. I would check for leak (i.e. Air) in fuel system, like at filter especially. Again, i am a very poor mechanic and hope you will soon receive better advice.


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 Post subject: Re: Help Needed
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:41 pm 
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more symptoms?how many miles?timing belt been done already?does it try to start or it just cranks free?


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 Post subject: Re: Help Needed
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:58 pm 
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I will try to purge the fuel system when I get home sounds like a good easy start. The jeep has not had the timing belt changed and has about 159k engine does not turn freely.

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 Post subject: Re: Help Needed
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:03 pm 
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:shock: 159k miles without a timing belt change???See with your dad if he really never did it at around 100k miles,wow i wish you its not the case,because it might be it...

I d be surprised for air in the fuel system making it stall and never start back,it could,but it would sound like a leak or a pump failure to me,but it was running perfect and then nothing...

Good idea to check for air,simple check up.

Let us know more later on :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Help Needed
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:29 pm 
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Thank you both very much, just got off the phone talking to my dad who just purged the fuel system and cranked it right up. Yes original timing belt! I have 2005 crd with 55k and my dad has a 2006 crd with 159k.

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 Post subject: Re: Help Needed
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:08 pm 
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Good thing!!!Happy for him!

But tell him to change his timing belt soon! :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Help Needed
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:57 am 
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X2!! timing belt needs doing like right now (e.g. sooner than soon). You don't want to play with the failure of a timing belt on an interference engine; very expensive. FYI if either of you have the 1st gen OEM fuel head that needs replacing too (if fuel heater element plug on drivers side is noticably smaller than the other electric plug then you have a 1st gen head). That head is prone to fuel/air leaks.

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 Post subject: Re: Help Needed
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:17 am 
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Again thanks for all the help, I've been telling him (my dad) to change the the timing belt however, he says "if ain't broke, dont fix it" both fuel head i believe are 2nd generation, both plugs on both jeeps are the about the same size.

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 Post subject: Re: Help Needed
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:27 am 
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Tony P. wrote:
Again thanks for all the help, I've been telling him (my dad) to change the the timing belt however, he says "if ain't broke, dont fix it" both fuel head i believe are 2nd generation, both plugs on both jeeps are the about the same size.


Tell your dad that does not make $$ sence :grim:
Change timing belt and water pump, maybe $1000, just a guess.
Change the engine after the belt breaks $8000 :5SHOTS:

Timing belts on interference engines are not a place to be cheeeep :2cents:

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