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 Post subject: grabber at2 or duratracs worth it?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:59 pm 
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I dont wheel much past dirt/rocky roads and pastures anymore. But might one day. What im wondering are the duratracs worth the 45 x 5 tires for my needs? I definitely want them, but with money tight and not really wheeling im wondering if I should just go with the cheaper grabbers and call it a day.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:24 pm 
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Love the Duratracs

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:20 pm 
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I know you do. Im just wondering if my uses warrant the price.

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have you decided if you are going to lift the grand or not

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:54 am 
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teckman02 wrote:
have you decided if you are going to lift the grand or not


Yeah OME HD as soon as the KJ check clears.

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How well do the duratracs wear and how many miles do yall think you can get with them?

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love my grabbers, so far the only issue I have had it if you want to call it an issue is the tread pattern. Very open and I often find large stones stuck inbetween the treads. But they are great and should be good for 50k miles.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:31 pm 
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Mine have 37,000 on them, new they came with 18/32s of tread, measured on my tread guage. Currently they have between 12/32 and 13/32 on the average. 50,000 miles will be easy to get
Rotations are key to any tire in getting good mileage

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:59 pm 
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Awesome news! I know the grabbers will last a good long while, but I have been thinking more and more about the duratracs despite the lack of offroading I do. I have an email conversation with kolak and when I get the final price for the WJ overhaul Ill decide if Im getting the grabbers or the duratracs as I also am going to 16s (HATE HATE HATE 17s) so I need to budget for soft 8s (moabs wont work sadly). Thanks yall!

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you can't go wrong with either one.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:00 pm 
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Only complaint i have about my grabbers, is the weak and thin sidewalls. i got a snakebite on a brand new one, less then 500 miles on it, while slowly driving over some small rocks. other then that, they're awesome! cheap, and they do well in everything i've had them in, even mud. they pack like hell in the really really thick mud, which is expected with a AT.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:47 pm 
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Sport wrote:
you can't go wrong with either one.


Yeah which is why Im on the fence. Really Im leaning more towards the grabbers as my budget got eaten into with the lift.

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Only complaint i have about my grabbers, is the weak and thin sidewalls. i got a snakebite on a brand new one, less then 500 miles on it, while slowly driving over some small rocks. other then that, they're awesome! cheap, and they do well in everything i've had them in, even mud. they pack like hell in the really really thick mud, which is expected with a AT.


The ones Im getting are the 10 ply e rating (plan on doing some towing) which are kinda overkill even for a WJ towing at the max. But I like to have a bit of leway and the E rated tires are $148 a pop. As for not doing well in thick mud, well I wouldnt expect an AT tire to do well there and I would definitely get the duratracs if I wheeled more often. But alas I dont and my budget being shot and realizing the duratracs will be overkill for my needs I think Ill be happy with the grabbers.

Plus they are supposedly a better version of the BFG TAKOs which I had for well over 30k miles that never did me wrong. SO I think Ill be happy. Sad I wont get the duratracs I really wanted, but such is life and I cant go too crazy with a newborn relying on my money.

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 Post subject: Re: grabber at2 or duratracs worth it?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:12 pm 
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Well the kolak quote went over so I pulled the trigger on 31in grabber at2s. I feel good about this. :JEEPIN:

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Grabbers all the way.
2nd set and I got 60k outta the first set with proper rotating (every 6k) and aligning (every 6K)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:27 pm 
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the one's that got the snakebite were the 10ply E rated ones as well. Might of just been a fluke, either way it sucked to ruin a brand new tire.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:32 pm 
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riptricket wrote:
Grabbers all the way.
2nd set and I got 60k outta the first set with proper rotating (every 6k) and aligning (every 6K)


Awesome! Making me feel better about my purchase! :JEEPIN:

irollgen4s wrote:
the one's that got the snakebite were the 10ply E rated ones as well. Might of just been a fluke, either way it sucked to ruin a brand new tire.


I did something similar to my D rated BFG TAKOs but didnt ruin the tire.

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was right in the middle of the sidewall and it was a slice about an inch long. Was too risky to patch so i just got a new tire instead.

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Procomp rockkrawlr 16x8 4.25bs with 265-70-65 General Grabber AT2's
Mopar full skid plates, JCR stage 3 Rock Rails
Kenwood HU, 6.5 pioneer marine grade door speakers, JL stealthbox kenwood amp
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:08 am 
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Yeah I have never tried to repair sidewall damage. I always just get a new tire.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:21 pm 
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Well my tires came in today and man Im a happy man! The pictures online give them no justice. Still cant believe I ordered then yesterday afternoon with standard shipping and they came this morning. :pepper: :BANANA: :pepper: :BANANA:

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where did you order them from and how much?
I got mine from DiscountTireDirect.com and paid $525 for 5 GG AT2's shipping included.


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