Lifting the CRD

vincennescrd · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:44 am

Ome 790-948 rides great.

denvergrows · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:17 am

The shocks say Rancho 9000XL. That is the only thing on the entire front suspension I am 100% sure of. I don't know if I have springs that give me a few inches or what. The guy I bought it from says it has a 2.5" in the front and 3" on the rear already. Says the reason he only went to 2.5 in the front was because he was advised about the upc's. But form what I understand, if I upgrade them to al a arms, I wont have any problem. So I would like to go higher since I really love the wheels and tires. From what i see the ome is only a 1.5" and the franken lift 2.5". For the price they seem unreasonable. Especially since I can get adjustable blisteins that will go from 2"-6" with just the turn of a knob for only a few hundred bucks more from the jba site. Plus If the guy is not full of doo doo, I almost feel like I have 2.5" taller coils on the front. So changing from whatever they are to the frankenlift or emu wouldnt raise me up any. It would just be a new lift.

denvergrows · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:27 am

Ok Scratch that. I am now 100% sure of 2 things on my front suspension. My springs are say emu 927. So I do have the old man emu. That is 1.5", correct? So then is that a spacer I see up top of the strut assembly just below the top plate?

denvergrows · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:44 am

Also I see everywhere the 2.5" daystar says not for the crd/diesel. Thoughts on this? I see a lot of other people doing it. And I'm not saying if everyone else jumped off a bridge, I would too. But it would be awful lonely if I didn't.

cgass · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:20 am

denvergrows wrote:

Also I see everywhere the 2.5" daystar says not for the crd/diesel. Thoughts on this? I see a lot of other people doing it. And I'm not saying if everyone else jumped off a bridge, I would too. But it would be awful lonely if I didn't.

The daystar lift puts extra stress on your springs, with the extra weight of the CRD they will sag quickly

denvergrows · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:42 pm

How does that work? I mean I can understand the weight thing from the crd, but it seems like the weight would effect it the same with or without daystars. I mean using the daystars doesn't add any weight to the springs. It just pushes them up a few inches.

cgass · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:49 pm

denvergrows wrote:

How does that work? I mean I can understand the weight thing from the crd, but it seems like the weight would effect it the same with or without daystars. I mean using the daystars doesn't add any weight to the springs. It just pushes them up a few inches.

It does push the spring up, giving you lift, but it also compresses it more than it would be without the spacer, this becomes magnified when the tire is stuffed too. The added compression causes the spring to wear faster and sag. The heavier the front end, the faster this will occur.

denvergrows · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:15 pm

so would you recommend getting smaller tires? I feel like that is my only real solution. They are just the bfg mud terrain km's. They are huge and nice but if I can't fit them then I guess I cant fit them.

cgass · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:27 pm

denvergrows wrote:

so would you recommend getting smaller tires? I feel like that is my only real solution. They are just the bfg mud terrain km's. They are huge and nice but if I can't fit them then I guess I cant fit them.

It depends on how deep your pockets are really. You could go with the Jeepin By Al 4" or 6" lifts, but they're pretty pricey. You could add a top plate to get a little more lift, they are available from Boiler (a member here) or from JBA. You might be able to do a clevis lift too, that will net a little. What size are the BFGs?

Also I believe the OME CRD springs are 790's. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

denvergrows · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:28 pm

No you are right the ome springs are supposed to be 790 on a crd. The tag definitely says 927 though. So that is one thing I would change in the process. A set of the 790's is $166 from the boulderbars.com site. The bfg's came off a friends Rubicon. They are the 255/75/17's.

cgass · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:53 pm

denvergrows wrote:

No you are right the ome springs are supposed to be 790 on a crd. The tag definitely says 927 though. So that is one thing I would change in the process. A set of the 790's is $166 from the boulderbars.com site. The bfg's came off a friends Rubicon. They are the 255/75/17's.

Those might be tight with just an OME lift. I don't know many people who run 32s without a bigger lift and regearing.

denvergrows · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:00 pm

I hear you. I have no problem spending the money on her, but I don't have much. I thinking my 2 choices are
A. Try the daystar and upgrade to the 790's. About $350. Hope for about a year life from that setup and in the meantime save up for the new machined cv axles, a arms and the adjustable lift from JBA.
B. Go to nice aggressive Duratracs in 245 or maybe 255/75/16. Enjoy them and not have to spend anymore money on it. And in a year if I still want to go bigger, I can spend it then.
B sounds like the smarter solution but I love the look of the 32's. And as far as regearing...... I haven't even though about it. Is that going to tear my transmission or front end up? How much do you suppose I would be looking at to get that done right. I'm very mechanical and can tackle a lot of projects but that sounds way out of my league.

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:29 pm

Your springs are sagged out even though they are 927s and will work they are shot
Plus you can not use a Daystar lift along with those springs you have
Daystar and new CRD springs yes but not the way it is now

Just do it right or leave it alone and save up some coin
and yes it helps a lot if going to 32s to re-gear

By the way 927s are rated at 400 lb
stock CRD are 410 so very close to same
790s are rated at 500 lb

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:30 pm

FYI - the reason Daystar 2 1/2" is not recommended for CRD - is because of the Driver's side CV - it's shorter than the V6's
so when you try to install it - it's much steeper angle and your risk of tearing a CV boot is very, very high.

That doesn't mean they don't work (on new springs)
When the CRD came out - it took OME 3 years to figure out how to make a spring for them -
so in the meantime - lot's of us(or at least several of us) used Daystar
it worked - it also compressed the spring a little more and ends up making them Sag faster.

so you probably need new springs just from a wear standpoint anyway - replace them with OME and you get a better suspension all around.

denvergrows · **Posted:** Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:31 pm

So that is the deal with the cv axles with 1/3'' machined of the front face from jeepin by al? They seem expensive but would they allow for a taller lift without a sfa swap?

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:45 pm

The front diff is located father to the left on a crd so the CV is at a greater angle , thus the reason you can not lift as much

denvergrows · **Posted:** Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:31 pm

even with these?

http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-CV_Axle_Driv ... e-591.aspx

denvergrows · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:58 pm

Anyone know anything about whether or not those would work for the application of raising a crd more that 2 1/2"?

cgass · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:03 am

denvergrows wrote:

Anyone know anything about whether or not those would work for the application of raising a crd more that 2 1/2"?

Call Marlon and ask. He's very willing to help customers. I've talked to him a few times. It does say in the description that they are intended for lifts over 2 1/2 though.

denvergrows · **Posted:** Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:10 am

Cool I'll do that. Yea from what they say it would work for a larger lift. I was just wondering if anyone had actually used them for this reason. I hear nothing but good things about jeepin by al products, but they are still a company trying to sell a product. Just looking for independent reviews or advice on them I guess.

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