anyone want to build me a bumper?

denvergrows · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 11:51 pm

Tommudd, your jeep, as well as all the accessories on it, look amazing. Really amazing. I am really impressed with it. Beautiful.
One question though; why is the bumper complete in one pic
Complete with the hi lift holder unpainted in one
And missing the hi lift holder in another all together?

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:01 am

denvergrows wrote:

Tommudd, your jeep, as well as all the accessories on it, look amazing. Really amazing. I am really impressed with it. Beautiful.
One question though; why is the bumper complete in one pic
Complete with the hi lift holder unpainted in one
And missing the hi lift holder in another all together?

Got it with the spare tire holder only, then Marty made the Hilift/can carrier a couple of months ago and I installed it

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:02 am

NewOldTimer wrote:

tommudd wrote:

CoopaTroopa wrote:

I like how no one bashes JCR anymore even though they had a product that did not install as it should have and they refused to admit that. If you're going to call out Marty for his practices you should be fair and do it to everyone.

Agree , I tried emails and calling to offer suggestions to JCR and never got one response to their carppy way of making their front mounts on the rock rails
Other wise they have a good product but that one issue is enough to make them subpar

I have a set of JCR Stage 3 rock rails. Just installed them a couple of months ago.
I had zero problems with the install. The only difficult part was wrestling them into place by myself to mark the
holes on the sub frame. BTW.... I have all 4 bolts in on the front mount, but did have a "hole" very close to one of the rear bolts on my sub frame, so I left it out.

I made my own template for the pinch weld from a strip of wood I had laying around in the garage.

To be honest, it was more of a chore to install my ARB bumper than the rock rails.

I know of two KJs and a KK where the front mounting hole for the rock rails were located right where there is a hole in the frame. Maybe they wised up and changed it finally :wink:

Kasmir Jones · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:12 am

Ms5490renegade wrote:

It's almost theft. I've seen a local one of his so called products. A soldered together mess. He takes forever to. Make half booty products. At this point just about any other bumper company is better. Atleast they won't have you wait a year after you paid, using your money to fund some stupid sfa kit

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You are absolutely right it is (almost)theft! Im one of those people waiting for my rear bumper that I paid for a year ago. He told me that it would be done and ready to ship after he received my forth and last payment! Yeah right!

denvergrows · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:15 am

Ok stupid question time, but then I am a noob, who or what is jcr?
Tom, I read on here one guy had a problem with the grease nipples, you see any flaw with them? That's the bumper I have my heart set on. Soooo nice. The ole ball and chain(she's going to kill me when she reads that) isn't too keen on $1800 for a bumper. I really got lucky to buy one with the front arb or we would have had to discuss it. Honestly, with me probably being the loser. Now that she has seen how important it is to be steel instead of plastic she's a little more approachable. So wants the skinks and the rear bumper that is $700. But then what's a guy to do with his hi lift?

denvergrows · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:19 am

Really??? A year later huh? You have documentation of payment and when the promised due date was in writing? If that's true, it's pretty bad from a customer service standpoint. No one can argue that. I believe I would ask for my money back.

Kasmir Jones · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:32 am

Yes really. Paid with Pay Pal.

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:42 am

denvergrows wrote:

Although that doesn't look like it would be a major structural defect considering where it is on the bumper, but why not weld it all the way as opposed to just tacking it in a few places? Are all the welds just tacks like that or lower is it fully done?

If you pay almost a grand for something and wait a year for it and drive half way across the country to pick it up, only having to wait a few days because it isn't done, you'd expect more wouldn't you? When he's on his game, very few products can compete.

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Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:43 am

It pisses me off because the owner of that jeep and her husband are incredibly nice people

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Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:45 am

tommudd wrote:

First he only made a few of those and has since changed the design a LOT
Second it was made to mount on early and later model KJs
Third anyone with 10 minutes of time could weld it solid if that is what you wanted
Fourth
ah heck some would claim there is too much peanut butter on their sandwich :ROTFL:

Look closely at EVERY weld on mine PERFECT!!!
:wink:

Running a business. No excuses. I can't tell my customers to pay and wait 6-8 months for product to show.

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denvergrows · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:48 am

Kashmir you ask for your money back?

Kasmir Jones · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:55 am

Not yet, he keeps telling me he is waiting for the hinges or something like that. I'll check my emails. Its a great looking bumper no doubt! Just not good business practices.

CoopaTroopa · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 9:00 am

we should all boycott jeep... after all they have known about faulty window regulators in the liberty but never seemed to fix that. I've paid for 2 myself. That is what you sound like right now, one small problem or mishap in a product and the whole thing goes to doo doo. I would say either buy from him or don't, but otherwise don't bring up negative comments and remarks. I would have thought that adults would act with a bit more dignity, but hey I guess my parents raised me to be more respectful towards others, especially when they are doing something for you. If you can't do it yourself don't gripe when someone else does it for you, otherwise go buy a welder and steel to make it yourself :2cents:

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 10:28 am

CoopaTroopa wrote:

we should all boycott jeep... after all they have known about faulty window regulators in the liberty but never seemed to fix that. I've paid for 2 myself. That is what you sound like right now, one small problem or mishap in a product and the whole thing goes to doo doo. I would say either buy from him or don't, but otherwise don't bring up negative comments and remarks. I would have thought that adults would act with a bit more dignity, but hey I guess my parents raised me to be more respectful towards others, especially when they are doing something for you. If you can't do it yourself don't gripe when someone else does it for you, otherwise go buy a welder and steel to make it yourself :2cents:

He's not doing anything for you. Get that idea out of your head. This isn't a charity. It's a for profit business. And what Window regulator cost that much?

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CoopaTroopa · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 10:38 am

Yep youre right he isnt doing me a service that I myself cannot do. silly me I forgot I could weld and had the materials to do so. And every time ive got a window regulator replaced its cost over 100 from the dealer. No one said this was a charity thats why I worked to pay for what I asked him to make and im willing and patient enough to wait as I know it will be quality when it arrives. Its humorous that you are so gun hoe to argue about a product which you yourself do not own.

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 10:55 am

CoopaTroopa wrote:

Yep youre right he isnt doing me a service that I myself cannot do. silly me I forgot I could weld and had the materials to do so. And every time ive got a window regulator replaced its cost over 100 from the dealer. No one said this was a charity thats why I worked to pay for what I asked him to make and im willing and patient enough to wait as I know it will be quality when it arrives. Its humorous that you are so gun hoe to argue about a product which you yourself do not own.

I've seen the good the bad and the ugly. I've been around here on and off for 4 years. This argument is done. If you are fine waiting will 2013 be my guest but get off that guys Johnson. You know those are shady business practices. It's come up at many meet and greet...

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CoopaTroopa · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 11:00 am

Maybe its time you go off again :wink:

This argument shouldn't have stated seeing as the original topic was lost, its people like you that ruin positive places like LOST. Our community should be getting companies to produce things for us, not insult those that already do. No company will want to make things if people like you receive them so critically. Imagine if when JCR came on here if everyone just said no those suck. They would have backed off and dozens of people wouldn't have sliders.

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 11:30 am

CoopaTroopa wrote:

Maybe its time you go off again :wink:

This argument shouldn't have stated seeing as the original topic was lost, its people like you that ruin positive places like LOST. Our community should be getting companies to produce things for us, not insult those that already do. No company will want to make things if people like you receive them so critically. Imagine if when JCR came on here if everyone just said no those suck. They would have backed off and dozens of people wouldn't have sliders.

Those? There's only one. Arb and jba make enough to be satisfying. If you don't like that, make your own, or buy a wrangler

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CoopaTroopa · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:21 pm

Your argument contradicts itself. what you are saying is that if I dont like I should make my own, however you are the one who doesnt seem satisfied, perhaps you should make a more coherent argument then come back.

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2012 12:27 pm

CoopaTroopa wrote:

Your argument contradicts itself. what you are saying is that if I dont like I should make my own, however you are the one who doesnt seem satisfied, perhaps you should make a more coherent argument then come back.

I'm not the only one. But I guess you haven't gotten out enough and talked to people to know that. I was told about this thread by another local and we'll known kj owner on this Site. Tbj (he's before your time) is STILL waiting for his.

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