I called my dealer to set-up an appointment for Monday to do this, service advisor became a little defensive with me. Gave me the "tell me what it doing and we will decide if you need it or not." I don't think he has a clue.

I've only had a very mild shudder and was not in any hurry to get this done until yesterday. Had to stomp on it to merge from stopped traffic onto a busy expressway, trans slipped and slammed back into gear. Hammered so hard that it thought I got hit from behind and it chirped the tires. Never had any problem like this before, not even cold.

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2005 Liberty Sport CRD, Lt Khaki, sunroof

Thankful to now be an EX-CRD owner.

I have often wondered about that attitude in some of the SW's & SM's and having done both jobs in the past wonder why they take such a defence roll. We have one SW like that at the D/C dealer here. What's strange is he is really a nice guy and knows his job, but will not take a customers word on anything, thinks TSB's should be done only if there is a problem. He doen't think a TSB for flash upgrades should be done unless there is a diagnoised problem, even if the TSB says there may be to customer complaiment or cells involved and to do the TSB reguardless.

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine

New here, have a question on this topic. I sometimes get the shudder on my '06 but I have also noticed that most mornings, most have been cold, I can travel 4-5 miles at highway speeds before the CRD will shift into 5th even on flat open roads. Is this a symtom of the same problem? Hadn't seen others comment on it.

Thanks in advance.

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Dave

'06 CRD Limited, Lt. Khaki, MOPAR Slush Mats/Skids, DrawTite Front Hitch, Mag Lite, Yakima Bars, Thule Bike Rack, Fumoto, ORM, 245/70 Revo 2

Wish list: Lift, Boulder Bars, Something Bigger in the Front and Back, More Lights

That is a symptom of the wrong filter in the tranny and the fluild drains out of the torque converter after long parging period, but it can also be a symptom of the reflash needed or both. You need to have it checked.

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine

Thanks OldNavy. I will make arrangements Monday.

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Dave

'06 CRD Limited, Lt. Khaki, MOPAR Slush Mats/Skids, DrawTite Front Hitch, Mag Lite, Yakima Bars, Thule Bike Rack, Fumoto, ORM, 245/70 Revo 2

Wish list: Lift, Boulder Bars, Something Bigger in the Front and Back, More Lights

Supprised you could understand what I had written with all the typo's.

Just came off a new medication couple of days ago and didn't know how bad it had my thinking messed up. But heck here I am with 2 degrees and still can't spell or compose a letter worth a crap.

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine

At least you have an excuse. I am just a dyslexic tpyre!

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Dave

'06 CRD Limited, Lt. Khaki, MOPAR Slush Mats/Skids, DrawTite Front Hitch, Mag Lite, Yakima Bars, Thule Bike Rack, Fumoto, ORM, 245/70 Revo 2

Wish list: Lift, Boulder Bars, Something Bigger in the Front and Back, More Lights

Doesn't help having a laptop that can not spell either.

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine

For what its worth, ours waited a bit till it shifted into overdrive on cold mornings too, but this is normal. It says so in the manual When its warm up outside it dosent wait to shift into overdrive at all.

I guess I am not sure what the definition of COLD is. I don't think I have had a night that it has been above 40 yet since I got it but 40 feels pleasant to me. As far as I can tell it has always worked this way since I got it when it sat over night. I have had the shifting issue too and a few times it has felt like the engine missed for a few beats then caught again. Never has thrown a code though.

I have an appointment with the dealer tomorrow so we will see what they have to say. Since I have skids on the way I wanted to have them check the tranny before I install the skid as someone else here mentioned they got charged for having to take one off that wasn't part of the build.

Thanks to all for your help.

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Dave

'06 CRD Limited, Lt. Khaki, MOPAR Slush Mats/Skids, DrawTite Front Hitch, Mag Lite, Yakima Bars, Thule Bike Rack, Fumoto, ORM, 245/70 Revo 2

Wish list: Lift, Boulder Bars, Something Bigger in the Front and Back, More Lights

I'd say with ours that if its like close to 50 degrees out it shift normal right away, any colder and it takes a little bit for some heat to build before it goes into overdrive. The colder it gets the longer it waits...

I have felt the "tranny shudder" as well. Usually right after passing someone on the highway and then going back to cruising. But to me it feels like the engine and not the tranny at all. I can even hear the engine change noises so I know something is going on at least engine wise...

I kinda wish DaimlerChysler was at least paying me to be a beta tester for them....

Why, MS didn't. Hey if if your Jeep was like Window's, we would really be in a pickle.

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine

The difference is, if Windows crashes I won't die

Depends on what you loose on that computer, it could cause self inflicted gunshot wounds from a ricochet.

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine

I picked mine up today from the dealer. When I got home, found they did 18-018-05, not 18-009-06. Took it back, told them to try again. Keep in mind, these are the guys that told me that they would determine what updates are needed. This time found the SM, lets just say we had words.

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2005 Liberty Sport CRD, Lt Khaki, sunroof

Thankful to now be an EX-CRD owner.

Got a call from my dealer in middle of the afternoon, said they needed to keep my Jeep for a couple of days because they needed to order parts to complete my TSB update. Was definately puzzled because what parts would they need to do a software upgrade? Told me they needed to order a new Transmission Control Module. Fried it doing a reflash??? Oh well, not like I'm going to drive it home now.

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2005 Liberty Sport CRD, Lt Khaki, sunroof

Thankful to now be an EX-CRD owner.

My dealer did the 18-009-06 without any hassle today. I explained the problem, they tested it and check DC, saw the upgrade and did it. I didn't push for the tranny filter upgrade as when I read that TSB mine does none of the things that are mentioned there. The SR told me that the OD shifting late in the morning was common as the transmission fluid had to heat up to a specific temp before it would engage. I have never experience the delayed shift into R or 1st that is mentioned in the TSB. That being said, I will crawl under there soon and check the transmission build date to see if mine might have the issue down the road.

Now lets talk about the upgrade. I noticed smoother shifting almost immediately and I believe a lower shift point almost immediately in town. Tonight on the way home I noticed a big difference. I have about a 10 mile drive on 55 MPH paved road. One hill early on is just after the 55MPH starts and we almost all drive that whole road at 60MPH. Most nights it will shift out of OD on the that hill and at least one other. The only down shift tonight was when I had to slow for a turning truck. I think I will notice a definate improvement in mileage as a result.

I also got to know my SR better and found out that he is a mud and back trail junkie who wishes his Rubicon had a CRD in it! We perused the ARB site for about 15 minutes and he told me the ARB bumper is a great option to add. He added one to his Rubicon. Told me that they were not as heavy as you might expect and didn't think I would need a spring lift unless I permanantly mounted a winch.

On the other hand OldNavy, he told me to stay away from your CCV filter until it was out of warranty. He told me that they had not seen any turbos pulling oil from the crankcase on the ones they service and that this was the kind of after market add on the DC looked for to void warranties. Perhaps I will just buy it and see if they change their minds or store it for 4.5 years.

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Dave

'06 CRD Limited, Lt. Khaki, MOPAR Slush Mats/Skids, DrawTite Front Hitch, Mag Lite, Yakima Bars, Thule Bike Rack, Fumoto, ORM, 245/70 Revo 2

Wish list: Lift, Boulder Bars, Something Bigger in the Front and Back, More Lights

Have you loosened the hose at the inlet to the intercooler and had a look? If you do I'll bet you can show your dealer one that is pulling oil from the crankcase. It was evident in mine at 1200 miles.

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Matt B.

05 Limited CRD. Bought it new. 112k on the clock now.

GDE Eco-tune, rear differential drain plug (drilled and tapped the pumpkin), transmission pan drain plug, Fumoto oil valve, fuel filler neck restriction removed, front hitch, Hayden fan clutch, Sears P1 battery since 08, Mobil 1 5w40, 5 volt glow plugs, DIY timing belt at 109k

Just quoting the SR Matt as he is the one I need the relationship with and the guy who will talk to DC on my behalf. That being said, tell me where that inlet hose will be found and I will check it out.

I do have a bit of a concern here as I noticed what I considered excess oil consuption on the first oil change. The dealer does the change as I got 2 years free changes on the DC sales incentive, but it stayed up fine for about 3.5 K miles, I didn't check it quite so close due to the lousy weather, then it was a quart low at a little over 5K. No leaks that I could see but a little blue smoke on start up in the morning which has now passed. Could be the turbo!

Oldnavy, how much of a mod with the filter be? Can I put it on between dealer visits then remove it again?

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Dave

'06 CRD Limited, Lt. Khaki, MOPAR Slush Mats/Skids, DrawTite Front Hitch, Mag Lite, Yakima Bars, Thule Bike Rack, Fumoto, ORM, 245/70 Revo 2

Wish list: Lift, Boulder Bars, Something Bigger in the Front and Back, More Lights

Two things, if you have the build date on the tranny that matches the TSB, you have the filter replaced ASAP or you can have a Torque Converter replaced later, or the whole tranny if shutters too hard at wrong time and that is a fact. What your tranny is doing "if" it has the wrong filter in is it's running with a dry torque converter and that ain't good and they won't last long doing that beleive me.

As for this clowns CCV filter comment it just shows how little he knows about a diesel and how the EGR works. Just pull the top large hose with the screw clamp and pull it off and look. It will have oil in the hose, and that ain't a real good thing. Us e a little of what you learn here and then go educate the man in a polite way. If that fails you better start looking for a different dealership.

Yes it will be easy to remove.

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine