Another timming belt...

4x4kingx889 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:42 pm **Posts:** 235

Well my jeeps timing belt just broke at 130k...I'll never take a dealers word again that's for sure...can any one point me on the right direction don't know where to go from here..

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racertracer · **Posted:** Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:05 pm

What happened... didn't you just get it done?

kjjet · **Posted:** Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:16 pm

4x4kingx889 wrote:

Well my jeeps timing belt just broke at 130k...I'll never take a dealers word again that's for sure...can any one point me on the right direction don't know where to go from here..

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Are you saying the dealer told you they changed the timing belt and they did not? Did you pull the cover and look at the belt? If it did break or jump the intake will need to be removed to inspect the Rockers and Lifters. I suggest installing all new. At 130k you will have rocker rollers loose. Any looseness is bad.

Where do you live? There may be someone close that can help you?

4x4kingx889 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:42 pm **Posts:** 235

I bought the jeep from a dealer almost 2 years ago with 116k and they assured me the belt was done...but it was as is so I'm on my own here and from eastern pa

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4x4kingx889 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:42 pm **Posts:** 235

Are the rockers most likely trashed? It happened at idle but I know this is a interference engine so its most likely.. any right ups on inspecting the valve train?

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josh61187 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:00 am **Posts:** 21

From what i have seen, if you get as far as inspecting the rockers you might as well replace them while you are in there. Just compile the parts and dig in. It is pretty impressive it went over 120,000 miles though.

josh61187 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:00 am **Posts:** 21

Somebody might correct me but these might work...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHRYSLER-VOYAGE ... 0d&vxp=mtr

Hexus · **Posted:** Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:50 pm

Those are the right rockers, but you still need the lifters as they are known to get damaged as well.

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4x4kingx889 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:42 pm **Posts:** 235

Im in the process of tearing it down...will post pictures after

geordi · **Posted:** Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:29 pm

Save the hassle of dealing with eBay... Google for "the vm specialist" (address is a .co.uk) and buy direct from them. Not only will the prices SMOKE the dealer's, they are less than just about everyone else I've seen too.

Less than $400 shipped for a complete set of 16 lifters and rockers (only ever sold as a set) and genuine VM parts. Other internals are also available if you need them.

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4x4kingx889 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:42 pm **Posts:** 235

Update I just removed the timing belt cover and the belt is not broken doesn't have slack either? When the jeep died I smelt a very strong rubber oder in cab and when I opened hood it was worse...is it safe to turn engine over with wrench to see if I can here any thing broke or is that a bad idea?

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skates04 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:04 pm

Yes you can turn it over with a wrench to see if anything is binding/hitting. Hopefully there are some marks from when the belt was "possibly" changed and you can see if they line up.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:36 pm

Sir Sam said they jump a tooth at the drive sprocket (that's the tightest corner)

4x4kingx889 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:42 pm **Posts:** 235

OK I will turn it over tomorrow with a wrench to here for noises...I wonder what caused the rubber smell belt "looks" okay..also how can I tell if it is in time or if it jumped?

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airwerks · **Posted:** Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:34 am

There are a couple timing belt write ups on this forum.... the info with pictures are there. Basically, you use (or make) pins that thread into the left and right side of the valve cover and into the cams to locate them and insert a 3rd pin through the bell housing / flywheel.

4x4kingx889 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:42 pm **Posts:** 235

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dKVXvURxPI

Doe's not sound like there are any broken lifter's or rocker's and I can't seem to find any broken teeth on the belt I did see a few little bits of rubber but that could be from wear and tear I do not know where the rubber smell was coming from

papaindigo · **Posted:** Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:45 pm

For what it's worth:
1. as best I can tell from the video your TB tensioner needs tightening, Not saying it's loose just that it appears that the marker is off which may very well just be normal wear.
2. it would be prudent to go ahead and check to seen if the 3 timing marks line up (flywheel pin and the 2 cam pins) since you are just checking at this point I think you can probably do so using a 6mm or 1/4" allen key for the flywheel pin and a couple of appropriate size drill bits to check the cams. I would not use drill bits as cam pins if changing the timing belt but they should do to confirm that things are or are not lined up.

As to your rubber smell. Is it possible one of the idlers or some such on the serpentine belt is seized and causing that belt to overheat?

4x4kingx889 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:42 pm **Posts:** 235

Hmmm yeah that could be the cause of the smell but would that cause the jeep to stall and not restart? Also just pulled codes for the fun of it and there was a p0093 code that I never had before

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papaindigo · **Posted:** Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:25 pm

That's a fuel rail pressure sensor code. If your serpentine belt is not running properly it could cause the battery not to charge properly which could result in a no restart; stall I don't know.

4x4kingx889 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:42 pm **Posts:** 235

It has a new fan belt so I don't know if that's it

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