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 Post subject: Blown intercooler hose
PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:48 pm 
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Last night on our way home we experienced a blowout on our intercooler outlet hose. Once removed, I discovered a 4 inch tear on the bottom of the hose close to the top fitting. I called our local Jeep dealership in Augusta and found the OEM unit priced at $153 w/tax. While searching ebay, I found a company outside of Athens Ga called Oconee Offroad 866-576-2454 (www.oconeeoffroad.com) and found an aftermarket replacement (Omix-ada part# 17121.02). I ended up calling the store directly and ordered the part for $60.70 tax/shipping included.
I know there are better hoses like Samco but I did not have the $$ right now. I will compare this cheaper alternative to the factory hose and report back on this post.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:13 am 
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Noob question. What happens when this hose blows? Power loss I would assume?

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:29 am 
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MedicPatriot wrote:
Noob question. What happens when this hose blows? Power loss I would assume?


Extreme power loss and black smoke from the rear!

I had this happen to me...the Jeep would go fine downhill but would crawl uphill.

I had to get both hoses from the Dealer as Samcos are a bit difficult to source here but I do not do much mileage these days so they should hopefully not have to be replaced again. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
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If you search the forum you'll find the Omix-ada hoses have been discussed before. IIRC they're a VERY tight fit but I don't recall any details about quality.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:37 pm 
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Billwill wrote:
MedicPatriot wrote:
Noob question. What happens when this hose blows? Power loss I would assume?


Extreme power loss and black smoke from the rear!

I had this happen to me...the Jeep would go fine downhill but would crawl uphill.

I had to get both hoses from the Dealer as Samcos are a bit difficult to source here but I do not do much mileage these days so they should hopefully not have to be replaced again. :)


Makes total sense since you don't have turbo anymore, its only the air that the intake can suck on its own. Black smoke may be due to driver stepping harder on acceleration and injectors being calibrated for turbo flow, so more fuel than air ratio.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:41 pm 
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I have the Omix-ada hoses on my CRD. They have much more webbing in the hoses compared to the originals. More than double. You can see the amount of webbing at the end of the hose where it is cut. I would consider them a great improvement over the original hoses. I'm happy with them.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
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How would one differentiate this from a blown turbo at first? If I experienced extreme power loss and black smoke I would probably turn the key off and let it coast to the side after horror stories I have heard on here from a blown turbo.

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Probably a good idea if running OEM hoses although a hose failure is easy enough to diagnose once hood is open and engine cover removed. Our you can cheat like I did, since this is a known weak point, and just put Samco's on and forget about the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:44 pm 
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I put the Oconee hoses on mine. The fit is snug, but it's nothing a little smear of dish soap won't cure! I did mine without removing the other hoses in the area...a bit of contortionist twisting and removing the wrist watch worked for me!

I'm very pleased with the hoses so far...though it's only been a month! We'll see how they hold up!

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papaindigo wrote:
Probably a good idea if running OEM hoses although a hose failure is easy enough to diagnose once hood is open and engine cover removed. Our you can cheat like I did, since this is a known weak point, and just put Samco's on and forget about the problem.


This aint cheating, lol, this is being proactive. I get the joke though and I agree, for few bucks more, get some samcos and just forget about blown hoses...

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
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Would it be safe to limp home on a broken hose or is it something that could cause harm?

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Limping home with a broken hose will not hurt anything but your wallet because the fuel milage will be horrible.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
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MedicPatriot wrote:
Would it be safe to limp home on a broken hose or is it something that could cause harm?


A broken hose would allow air to bypass the filtration. So other than possible cel codes due to the fact turbo will push the air out through the hose crack, and engine will suck not filtered air (and possible hose pieces), I don't think its a problem, at least I dont see what else (other than what was mentioned) can happen..

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
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Lucky for me that I was only a few miles away from home when I heard the loud "whooshing" sound of air, and then felt a very noticable loss of power. I suspected what the problem was and did not push it, so I limped home.
Good to hear that a few of you have purchased this same brand of hose with good results (Jon/Billy M), thanks for the feedback.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
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Umm a blown intercooler hose is pushing air at pressure out of the turbo not pulling it in. So no worries except for maybe pushing pieces of it thought the intercooler and into the motor (never heard of this happening). Yes you may get a little unfiltered air pushed through the hose but self annealing tape or duct tape will help prevent that. I have run up 25 miles with a blown hose just fine mine was just a bad clip that time but no issues except for fuel milage and a little extra heat under the hood.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
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Pieces of rotten hose can get in the engine if the blown hose is the cac hose (not the turbo), but more than likely it will either get stuck in the intake if it is a big piece, either get grinded/burned by the valves or piston if its a small piece, shouldn't "normally" be a big deal or break the engine.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
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About the only way unfiltered air is going to get into the system from a hose is a tear in the airbox to turbo hose right in front of the turbo. Both the CAC hoses are under internal pressure and while I suppose it's possible for a piece to get loose inside; the ones I've heard about and seen have all produced a nice clean split/tear with no fragmenting. Would I drive home with a split hose; yes probably if it wasn't too far say 25 miles or so otherwise I'd look for some sort of temporary repair. Not that I personally anticipate having that problem per my signature.

For what it's worth my Samcos, Steiger window regulators (not a CRD specific issue), Fumoto valve (not a CRD specific issue), 2n gen fuel head (probably as the heater element sort of smelled like diesel but may not have actually been leaking although when I swapped the element was obviously burnt), Hayden fan clutch and to a certain extent the GDE tune are all preventive maintenance. Did I have to do them, no; would I have to do them someday, maybe; but the $s spread over a number of years of ownership are worth the peace of mind.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:56 am 
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MedicPatriot wrote:
Would it be safe to limp home on a broken hose or is it something that could cause harm?

i ran mine blown for two weeks.
took hose off & cleaned with carb cleaner.
applied almost 1/3 of a roll of gorilla tape on it.
was surpassed how well it actually worked.
there is a fresh roll in the back at all times now.
it will get you home.


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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:57 am 
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I've also heard of self amalgamating silicone (Rescue) tape being used with good success to keep you going until replacements can be ordered and delivered.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown intercooler hose
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:14 pm 
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When mine split I found a pvc elbow at home depot, cut the hose in two at the split, and inserted the elbow. I got two more hose clamps to hold the hose onto the elbow and drove like that until samcos arrived. Same could be done with a straight piece of pipe if the split happens in a straight area of the hose.

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