Timing Belts Job - Is The Special Took Essential?

mswarbrick · **Joined:** Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:36 pm **Posts:** 14

My mechanic is going to do the timing belt on my 05 Liberty Sport CRD, but he does not have the special tool that holds the cams from turning. Can something else be used instead, or is this tool required and if so, where can I get one? I'm in Dixon Illinois. Thanks.

LMWatBullRun · **Posted:** Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:35 pm

mswarbrick wrote:

My mechanic is going to do the timing belt on my 05 Liberty Sport CRD, but he does not have the special tool that holds the cams from turning. Can something else be used instead, or is this tool required and if so, where can I get one? I'm in Dixon Illinois. Thanks.

You need both the camshaft locating pins and the cam sprocket tool if you are to do the water pump. I have seen firsthand (well, secondhand) the results of not having the proper tools to hold the cam sprockets tightly. It may well be that there are a number of options that will work, but having something that will in fact hold the cam sprockets completely motionless relative to the camshaft and each other is NOT optional. Whether you use the Miller tools or something else you MUST hold the cam sprocket completely motionless and independently of the cam locating pins which will not take any significant torque.

I bought the Miller special tool and the VM cam pins, and am extremely pleased, having now used them on two CRDs. It makes the water pump replacement relatively easy. Anumber of folks have said good things about the Sealey tools which are reasonable and available in the UK.

Good luck!

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:49 pm

Well

Beesville made his own

http://www.beesvillebeefarm.com/jeep.html

but you have to have something - and if you mess if up - you're doing again with more parts

and ordering a kit from England didn't seem to be much of a problem
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360611413729

mswarbrick · **Joined:** Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:36 pm **Posts:** 14

Thanks for the answers. I'm in the U.S. Where is the best place to order these from in the U.S? Can someone give me some links?

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:14 pm

Well - I think a couple of folks have bought them (from Ebay)

and Google found these - looks like they ship to the US - call and ask

http://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/5051747579798%20sealey%20vse5056%20diesel%20engine%20timing%20kit%20-%20chrysler%20ldv%202.5%202.8crd%20-%20belt%20drive

http://www.motorsport-tools.com/sealey-diesel-engine-timing-kit-chryslerldv-25crd-belt-drive-vse5056-p-264849.html

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:22 pm

Remember - the pins by themselves aren't strong enough for the torque

you need an extra part to hold torque - and that's expensive for the correct tool - but there have been a number of substitutions (like Beeville's VW wrench)

mswarbrick · **Joined:** Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:36 pm **Posts:** 14

Thanks...so now I need to locate the "expensive correct tool" to hold tension. Anybody know where I can get that or the VW tool mentioned?

ebbnflow · **Posted:** Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:09 pm

mswarbrick wrote:

Thanks...so now I need to locate the "expensive correct tool" to hold tension. Anybody know where I can get that or the VW tool mentioned?

Metalnerd.com. It's called the sprocket buster. Costs about $40.

papaindigo · **Posted:** Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:41 am

Making sure the cam and flywheel pins insert correctly before and after the job ensures that engine "mechanical" timing is correct and is more important that what tool you use to hold the cam gears while removing and installing the cam bolts. I have and use the Miller tools but there are other options.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:27 am

The correct tool is the VM 1085

but web sites are asking ~ $700 for it alone
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=72948

mswarbrick · **Joined:** Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:36 pm **Posts:** 14

Is there nowhere in the U.S where I can get these tools?

SargeIndustries · **Posted:** Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:39 am

http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Lock-II-Cam ... B000I1EB88

purchased this model on ebay for 50 bucks. worked for me...

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