Etecno plug woows..

VMKJCRD · **Posted:** Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:06 pm

Finally got the plugs in and every thing is fine, no more check engine light. Now I just need some colder weather to see how they react.

Also got new motor mounts installed and what a difference! Every time I would turn her off it felt like the engine was going to flip over in the engine bay but now its nice and smooth. I would recommend anyone how hasn't done so to do it.

Thanks for all the help!

CGman · **Posted:** Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:36 pm

Rabert wrote:

Yep, I'm having a similar problem. Replaced ceramics (which looked OK) with the metal Etecno back in October/November time frame. Just got a P1265 (#3) yesterday morning when it reached 15F (in Texas!!!). That was scary, I was expecting parts to be on the driveway. Anyway will start with the resistance check and order both relays. Thanks for posting the part numbers.

I may have set a new record...new Etecno plugs installed 4 weeks ago, got the dreaded P1265 message this morning! I normally use the block heater, but didn't this time because I wasn't planning on driving the Jeep today. The Jeep was in the garage all night with outside temps around 20 deg F. This sucks!

OneCheekRider · **Posted:** Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:31 am

4 months and 5k miles on my #4 etecno 7v. Code P1267. Got a replacement from IDparts and will send the old one out for a refund.

Edit: this is the response I received from Etecno:

Etecno wrote:

Claims about this glow plugs are not popular, but we had five claims this winter, all from USA, I guess the very could temperature in the area have stressed the glow plugs very much, so I guess minor manufacturing fragility can show up on a few samples. We need to investigate this further and I'm in charge of collecting data for proper investigation.

MRausch82 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:38 am

I am wondering if the relays are sticking and causing the plugs to overheat. I have seen this on older VW/Volvo diesels. May not be a bad idea to replace the relay behind the battery tray when upgrading to Etecno's. Then again, they may just be inferior. I stick with Bosch GP's myself. I have used them for years in other applications, and the only issues that I have encountered are; 1: Overheating and/or breaking WHEN the relay sticks/fails; 2: Hard starting in the very cold weather on the CRD with the new 5V steel plugs, which I am blaming on ECM programming. Mopar/Bosch need to come up with a better flash. Longer glow time, etc. may resolve that... Other than that, I have not had any issues with Bosch GP's in the past.

FrankCastle · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:04 pm

Sorry CGMAN, the record is mine... One week on my new glow plugs and Ta Daaaaa! The lightning light has just gone off... Not sure which one of the four plugs is but... They were all brand new and here the temperatures are around 10°C so definitely not cold at all!!!

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MRausch82 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:36 pm

FrankCastle wrote:

Sorry CGMAN, the record is mine... One week on my new glow plugs and Ta Daaaaa! The lightning light has just gone off... Not sure which one of the four plugs is but... They were all brand new and here the temperatures are around 10°C so definitely not cold at all!!!

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Lightning Bolt light is a throttle issue, not a glow plug issue… At least not here in the USA.

FrankCastle · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:16 pm

Lightning between brackets could be both... If it stays on after warm up, then it's a throttle issue, otherwise it's a glow plug issue... And this is my case...

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MRausch82 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:24 pm

FrankCastle wrote:

Lightning between brackets could be both... If it stays on after warm up, then it's a throttle issue, otherwise it's a glow plug issue... And this is my case...

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It must be different in Italy then here in the US. If our glow plugs have a fault, it will trigger a code and a check engine light.

FrankCastle · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:43 pm

By the way you were right... Only Export cars turn the bolt on, americans set the CEL off

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FrankCastle · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:39 pm

Asked ETECNO and they answered they're going through some tests to check whether it is a faulty stock or not. In the meantime I'll just hope the other plugs don't fail as well. How about changing the relay? I've seen that you guys were talking about it but I'm a kinda confused: is it the glow plug module or the ASD relay the one to be changed?

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Billwill · **Posted:** Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:22 am

FrankCastle wrote:

Asked ETECNO and they answered they're going through some tests to check whether it is a faulty stock or not. In the meantime I'll just hope the other plugs don't fail as well. How about changing the relay? I've seen that you guys were talking about it but I'm a kinda confused: is it the glow plug module or the ASD relay the one to be changed?

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Must be the ASD relay the guys are talking about...the output of the relay feeds into the Glow Plug Controller.

I do not see any "glow plug relay" in the circuit diagrams for the USA 2005/6 CRDs....the glow plugs get powered individually directly by the Glow Plug Controller....unless there is a relay built into this controller.

Early Export CRDs like mine do not have a glow plug controller...the four glow plugs are supplied +12 volts directly from two large relays in the PDC under the hood. :wink:

FrankCastle · **Posted:** Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:00 am

Tnx Bill. That must be the one. I'll try to find it and buy it online.

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BigDieselEv · **Posted:** Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:47 pm

I'll add my :2cents:

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About 3 weeks ago it was 5 degrees F and I had an early trip planned. Put block heater on for a few minutes/hours don't remember, but not too long, and definitely not an all night affair.

Did the cycle key thing a few times, no start, a couple of little catches, very slow crank, gave up and took the wife's gasser.

Wife started CRD up later after several hours on block heater, and she said started right up.

CEL of P1263 if I recall, GP #2. Cleared CEL several times, keeps coming back. Use block heater religiously now. No repeat of no start, however slow crank if cold with no block heater (seems logical).

Now on the road at hotel with CEL and ID Parts replacement for GP #2 ready for installation in rear cargo area. Hopes it starts in the morning, overnight forecast of 34 and light snow.

kjjet · **Posted:** Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:15 pm

FrankCastle wrote:

Tnx Bill. That must be the one. I'll try to find it and buy it online.

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The ASD relay P/N 04671168 powers the glow plug module.

Can someone let me know if I'm correct in saying The original and steel 7V Glow plugs use module P/N 56044671AA and the 5v steel Glow plug Module is P/N 56044671AC? I don't believe the modules are interchangeable between 7 and 5 volt plugs?

Thanks
KJJET

flman · **Posted:** Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:33 am

kjjet wrote:

FrankCastle wrote:

Tnx Bill. That must be the one. I'll try to find it and buy it online.

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The ASD relay P/N 04671168 powers the glow plug module.

Can someone let me know if I'm correct in saying The original and steel 7V Glow plugs use module P/N 56044671AA and the 5v steel Glow plug Module is P/N 56044671AC? I don't believe the modules are interchangeable between 7 and 5 volt plugs?

Thanks
KJJET

I always thought and heard the numbers were the difference and the letters were the revision? So the 2 parts numbers you have above are for the same application?

kjjet · **Posted:** Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:56 pm

That sounds like a correct statement. Which on is better to use with steel? AA or AC? I'm trying to replace everything I can so I don't have to keep opening this thing up.

flman · **Posted:** Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:58 pm

kjjet wrote:

That sounds like a correct statement. Which on is better to use with steel? AA or AC? I'm trying to replace everything I can so I don't have to keep opening this thing up.

If you have Etecnos it should not matter, the AC is just the newer then the AA relay, it could be that they have a new vendor manufacturing it, but basically the same?

kjjet · **Posted:** Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:59 pm

flman wrote:

kjjet wrote:

That sounds like a correct statement. Which on is better to use with steel? AA or AC? I'm trying to replace everything I can so I don't have to keep opening this thing up.

If you have Etecnos it should not matter, the AC is just the newer then the AA relay, it could be that they have a new vendor manufacturing it, but basically the same?

Thanks for your thoughts, but should and sounds like is not enough for me. Even the dealer was not completely sure.

:dizzy:

flman · **Posted:** Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:23 am

kjjet wrote:

flman wrote:

kjjet wrote:

That sounds like a correct statement. Which on is better to use with steel? AA or AC? I'm trying to replace everything I can so I don't have to keep opening this thing up.

If you have Etecnos it should not matter, the AC is just the newer then the AA relay, it could be that they have a new vendor manufacturing it, but basically the same?

Thanks for your thoughts, but should and sounds like is not enough for me. Even the dealer was not completely sure.

:dizzy:

Ask Keith at GDE, I heard about the letters from him in a post, and I am sure he knows more then the guy at the dealer counter.

CGman · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:47 pm

Quote:

I may have set a new record...new Etecno plugs installed 4 weeks ago, got the dreaded P1265 message this morning! I normally use the block heater, but didn't this time because I wasn't planning on driving the Jeep today. The Jeep was in the garage all night with outside temps around 20 deg F. This sucks!

Just lost #2 glow plug (3 months since new). Is IDPARTS.COM carrying the ASD relay? I thought they were but I couldn't find it when I looked the other day.

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