Oh, yes, I do understand that, very well. What I don't know, is by what means the tables interact - which ones interact - and what the values mean. I'm not just wanting "more", I'm looking for specific optimizations - the are:

Faster injection (less duration for same fuel), since this improves fuel efficiency. EVERY diesel engine these days spreads the injection out far beyond optimum for emissions purposes. One is to reduce peak temperatures and pressures, and the other is to reduce particulates. Disabling EGR dramatically reduces particulates, so that's not even a problem. What, however, happens when you remove EGR, is higher peak pressures and combustion temperatures. That improves efficiency. However, because you do not slow down the fuel burn with EGR, and don't need nearly the "late" injection to promote after-burn of the particulates that EGR creates, you can have an additional improvement. It means getting the fuel in a little faster and in some cases, a little earlier... and at high speed, possibly later.

I know what the engines need by experience. What I do not know, his how the tables are parsed and applied. As you say, I don't fully grasp the logic of the software and how it uses the data you give it.

What I do know, is that some moderate changes to maps 1-3 to remove some of the extreme negative numbers, results in a very significant improvement in economy and performance at 1600 to 2800.

Correct. Someone in this thread thought it was.

ok , what you can try , is to increase the value where is negative in #3 map and after in #1 and #2 map copy the #3 map , but increase all value near the original value , example at 4500 rpm 100% load you have 845 in 3 map , in second map you have 975 ? increase all value to arrive at 975 , hope I'm clear , is difficult for me

I don't know if you mean me, but I was talking about 3rd map from the bottom of the list called "Torque limiter #3 (7)", which contains limiters for different gears.

You do know that there is a LOT of info about EDC16 in the internet? Almost every european car diesel engine from that era is controlled by it. Maps don't necessary look the same in every ecu but it can help learning. Most of the tuners seem to be using WinOLS, which has more functions and is a little bit more complex than ECM Ti.

news ???

No, I wasn't aware of that.

Yeah, I have winOLS, too, but realized that my hex reading skills are almost non-existent, so... For me that just adds another layer of things I don't understand.

Oh, yes, I do understand that, very well. What I don't know, is by what means the tables interact - which ones interact - and what the values mean. I'm not just wanting "more", I'm looking for specific optimizations - the are:

Faster injection (less duration for same fuel), since this improves fuel efficiency. EVERY diesel engine these days spreads the injection out far beyond optimum for emissions purposes. One is to reduce peak temperatures and pressures, and the other is to reduce particulates. Disabling EGR dramatically reduces particulates, so that's not even a problem. What, however, happens when you remove EGR, is higher peak pressures and combustion temperatures. That improves efficiency. However, because you do not slow down the fuel burn with EGR, and don't need nearly the "late" injection to promote after-burn of the particulates that EGR creates, you can have an additional improvement. It means getting the fuel in a little faster and in some cases, a little earlier... and at high speed, possibly later.

I know what the engines need by experience. What I do not know, his how the tables are parsed and applied. As you say, I don't fully grasp the logic of the software and how it uses the data you give it.

What I do know, is that some moderate changes to maps 1-3 to remove some of the extreme negative numbers, results in a very significant improvement in economy and performance at 1600 to 2800.

sorry , but can't work , different ecu and map

Warning: must have a strong TC installed to hold torque.
Yeti's 811 ECU/FCV delete + Stage IV Hot tune enclosed

turbo limit stress is 1,7- 1,8 bar ...break limit ..original is 1,35 I put it at max 1,5
rail pressure break limit is 1800 bar , original is 1600 and I put it at 1650

this is another Hot tune , based on previous, but above this I can not suggest , for your engine , try this and let me know , this tune can only work for who have a Suncoast tc , I think is a limit for OUR engine , for me is HOT-HOT-HOT , but treat with more manner your engine, for him security

Marco