ALTERNATIVE BRAKES brand for the Jeep Liberty

hgrimberg · **Joined:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm **Posts:** 363

I started having issues when braking. It is like I stop but then, it goes on a few more inches or maybe a whole foot more. Seems like the brakes are slipping. It is a bit dangerous. I first thought it was a problem on the transmission but I went to the Tires repair shop and the guy says it is the brakes that need to be replaces. The discs look very used and below the minimum mark for replacement.
I was offered to replace it with another brand, not Chrysler or Mopar. The brand and model that they are telling me it is ok to use is: BAR BD5121 which are also 288 mm, 5 bolts and ventilated. Is this ok for my 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD?
Thank you,

papaindigo · **Posted:** Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:45 pm

Must be decent as idparts sells them and they do a pretty good job on only stocking good parts. See http://www.idparts.com/fremax-front-rot ... -5300.html

hgrimberg · **Joined:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm **Posts:** 363

papaindigo wrote:

Must be decent as idparts sells them and they do a pretty good job on only stocking good parts. See http://www.idparts.com/fremax-front-rot ... -5300.html

Great! You found them! I looked all over on the web and couldn't find them. Ok, so they fit.
Thank you!

Lancer · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:06 am

I fit EBC discs and pads all round. The only thing you have to check with any company's rear discs is the size of the parking brake - there are 2 different sizes so I'd suggest measuring the parking brake drum in your rear disc to make sire you get the right size.

PALiftedKK · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:06 am

Make sure brake fluid is still full. Fluid shouldnt look black. If anything but the brown color in the "lostjeeps.com" banner, then replace the fluid. Replacing brake lini gs to stainless steel is a price well payed for safty and fastet braking.

If you dont wheel ebc is too hard for you and a waste of money. Just ask the sales man what fits your crd and go from there. Oem quality for the jeeps are usually the recomended.

hgrimberg · **Joined:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm **Posts:** 363

I now believe the problem is with the brakes pump because it was stopping and then after, it was going on a bit more. I think the cylinder in the pump must be leaking fluid there because of usage. The cylinder must have lost some thickness.

fratichelli · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:11 pm

Do you mean the Master Cylinder? Hydraulics either work or they dont.

I guess we forgot to ask, but what is the behavior of the pedal? Before turning the engine on is the pedal hard? Does it get hard after pumping? Does it slowly lose pressure if you hold it?

Before you go crazy look at the pads and the rotors. You have to replace those first anyway.

hgrimberg · **Joined:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm **Posts:** 363

fratichelli wrote:

Do you mean the Master Cylinder? Hydraulics either work or they dont.

I guess we forgot to ask, but what is the behavior of the pedal? Before turning the engine on is the pedal hard? Does it get hard after pumping? Does it slowly lose pressure if you hold it?

Yes for all of the above.

Before you go crazy look at the pads and the rotors. You have to replace those first anyway.

I replaced the front discs and pads today. The back ones were not looking that bad so I kept them. I still hear a terrible noise when I brake hard. The noise comes from the back. Maybe I should have replaced them as well. I am going on a road trip tomorrow and I wonder if it could be dangerous to do so...

fratichelli · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:06 am

The front brakes do all the stopping when you're going forward, that's why they're bigger. I'd be careful backing up though.

What is the horrible noise? Is it a grinding or a squealing?

PALiftedKK · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:43 am

^^^ brakes should be configured out of the factory 60% front 40% rear or around those percentages but never 50/50. When braking the weight is tranfered mostly to the front axle. If brake pressure were split evenly between front and rear axle, the rear axle would skid until you come to a stop since most of the weight is on the front axle.

I'll bet your rears are squeeking... Theres a plate that
dampens the squeel. You should be able to see the plate on the pad. If not, thats your issue. Simce the rear pads have good material on them acording to you, theres nothing to worry about. Unless you hate the noise...

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:11 am

Do these brakes have chatter bars?

hgrimberg · **Joined:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm **Posts:** 363

The noise I hear is a grinding, not a squeaking coming from the back when I brake. I think I'll better replace the rear pads.

hgrimberg · **Joined:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm **Posts:** 363

This is how the disc looks like on the rear wheels:

hgrimberg · **Joined:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm **Posts:** 363

And this is how the pads look like:

hgrimberg · **Joined:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm **Posts:** 363

This is how the back side of the disc on one wheel looks like. It seems it is almost all destroyed on this side. The frontal side looks ok. I will replace the pads anyway. Maybe some othe day I eill have to replace the rear discs?

flash7210 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:05 pm

Those rear discs need to be replaced.

PALiftedKK · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:07 pm

Bro... Your pads and roatr need replaced... Rotars are gouged because the pads are only metal... Might aswell replace all rotars and pads. Your wasting money if you dont replace rotars.

fratichelli · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:31 pm

I agree with PAlifted. You don't have rotors or pads. Hopefully the heat didn't ruin the cylinders in the calipers.
You are going to have to flush the brake fluid because I am sure that the fluid has been baked.

Don't compress the piston until you open the bleeder because you will probably force sediment into the master cylinder.

hgrimberg · **Joined:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm **Posts:** 363

Yes, the grooves on that rear disc are too deep. They might ruin my new pads.

PALiftedKK · **Posted:** Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:19 pm

Not even worth resurfacing the rotars.

Unless you have one readily available. Just fork up the cash and buy new rotars. Regular non vented or drilled and slotted arent necicary at all since you have stock calipers and are still about factory weight.

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