WWDiesel,
You seem like a very level headed individual and quite knowledgeable based on the posts I have read of yours on this forum. I will disagree with a lot of what you have to say below though in this instance.
Just for starters, this thread really had nothing to with Jeff to begin with. Another poster was just sharing an idea he had for making a different thermostat housing. Not one word was mentioned by him about the HDS 001 or Jeff in his post in this thread. The OP and Jeff don't see eye to eye, but his original post again has nothing to do with Jeff. Cue up the second post in the thread. Guess who....Jeff with veiled inuendo trying to stir up crud because he just cannot help himself. He thinks as the self proclaimed CRD thermostat expert, that any thread created regarding thermostats should be subjected to his rants. He creates all his own problems. He believes he has been wronged by so many people. He has chased away one poster who did nothing but offer an alternative and decided he had no appetite for Jeff's garbage. I cannot see how you can defend his pattern of poor behaviour just because "he can get a little obnoxious and tends to go overboard at times", as you put it. He gets very obnoxious and goes way overboard imho.
I guarantee you will not find one single post or comment anywhere where anyone had said a single bad thing about Jeff's actual product. If there is anything eveyone can agree on is that it is a well designed product.
This issue is Jeff cannot handle even the smallest criticism that he perceives about his product or how he handls himself. He is quick to heap praise on those who agree with him and even quicker to disparage those who do not agree, no matter how trivial. Jeff demonstrates many of the traits of having a narcissist disorder, some of which are:
"A 2012 book on power-hungry narcissists suggests that narcissists typically display most, and sometimes all, of the following traits:[7]
An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
A lack of psychological awareness (see insight in psychology and psychiatry, egosyntonic)
Difficulty with empathy
Problems distinguishing the self from others (see personal boundaries)
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (see criticism and narcissists, narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury)
Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
Haughty body language
Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them (narcissistic supply)
Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
Pretending to be more important than they actually are
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
Denial of remorse and gratitude"
I for one will never condone or make light of his behaviour just because he happened to make a great product. In fact, I find that disrepectful towards many of the board members here that have been around much longer and done a lot more to advance our knowledge of the little Italian tractor engine. These include OldNavy, GMCTD, Sir Sam, LocoCRD, kapalczynski, Sqeeto, Yeti, GreenDieselEngineering, Sasquatch Parts, Corey @ IDParts, DarbyWalters, MrMopar64, 0331_Doc, Dgiest, papaindigo, tonycrd and many more who I am probably forgetting at the moment, not to mention regular gasser KJ posters such as Tommudd, tjkj2002 and again others who I am forgetting at the moment.
The one time this never ending saga actually quieted down for a bit was when 10-15 longtime posters finally spoke up about Jeff's poor manner's and etiquette, and told him to knock off his garbage and let his product alone speak for him. He did not post on the forum for quite some time and when he did he was brief and to the point with his replies in addition to being polite. The old Jeff is back though and really seems unable to control himself. Forum members really need to quit defending his actions, as you are enabling him. His behaviour is unacceptable and should not be welcome on this forum or any forum for that matter. People really need to understand the common denominater in all of this...is Jeff himself.
WWDiesel wrote:
Dang some of y'all on this forum are extremely tough on Jeff, maybe even a little overboard at times!
Yea I know he can be very defensive of his product and can get a little obnoxious and he tends to go overboard at times, but for Christ's sake please give the man a break, he has invested his time and money to design, engineer, and bring to market a product no one else in the world has provided for a vehicle that was only sold in this country for two years...
Think about that and let it soak in!
If you don't like his thermostat that's fine, no one is forcing anyone to purchase it, but do people have to constantly beat the poor guy up for his product?
And no, I have not purchased one of his thermostats due to the fact I have not needed one so far. So I am a neutral party!
I try my dead level best to help anyone on here who seaks help or advice to the best of my knowledge, but I get very tired of some of the negativity shown by some.
If you cannot say something good or offer helpful advice for a problem, it best to say nothing at all!
I just get tired of people being SO critical of some members on this forum who have only provided products or try their very best to provide helpful and meaningful advice and information for our very unique vehicle.....
IF you cannot provide a better product, why criticise?