Its a good day!!

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:55 pm

Today was the last day of work for the summer! And I got my Lost Kj's badge+moab shirt!! Im going to get me some Black modle car paint and paint the letters so you can see them. Thanks again pixeldzn for all the hard work you do for Lost members! You better come to slade the next time we go!!

The paper stuck to the badge. :cry:

MoladoGuy · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:08 pm

Got my badge in today as well!! Where is everyone putting theirs???

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:38 pm

Im purty sure Im going to put it on the back left, below Jeep.

gopherbeats · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:03 pm

cool those badges are pretty fancy! I may have to pick up one.

4wdParakeet · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:06 pm

I removed the 3.7L logo from the right side and put mine there.

Parakeet

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:12 pm

heres mine, i just took off the limited badge with fishing line. came off nice and clean...

PBrug · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:17 pm

4wdParakeet wrote:

I removed the 3.7L logo from the right side and put mine there.

Parakeet

That's exactly what I was going to do being that we already have 4 badges on the back of the Renegade. How did you take off the 3.7L logo and did it leave behind any marks?

MoladoGuy · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:19 pm

4wdParakeet wrote:

I removed the 3.7L logo from the right side and put mine there.

Parakeet

Yea that sounds like a great idea. Now if it said CRD I wouldn't touch it, or even 4.0L haha.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:39 pm

MoladoGuy wrote:

4wdParakeet wrote:

I removed the 3.7L logo from the right side and put mine there.

Parakeet

Yea that sounds like a great idea. Now if it said CRD I wouldn't touch it, or even 4.0L haha.

Gosh, I wish it had the 4.0. I know the 3.7 has more power, but the 4.0 gets its torque much, much lower than the 3.7. :cry:

LuckeyDuckey · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:09 pm

Quote:

How did you take off the 3.7L logo and did it leave behind any marks?

use dentel floss between the badge and car and use it to kind of "slice" through and then use goo-off to get the sticky off

Mutt · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:12 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

MoladoGuy wrote:

4wdParakeet wrote:

I removed the 3.7L logo from the right side and put mine there.

Parakeet

Yea that sounds like a great idea. Now if it said CRD I wouldn't touch it, or even 4.0L haha.

Gosh, I wish it had the 4.0. I know the 3.7 has more power, but the 4.0 gets its torque much, much lower than the 3.7. :cry:

..........but did you know that torue and horsepower are always equal at 5252 rpm?

Sorry for the trivia, but I'm hitting the PBR on a Thursday night. BTW, what is this no working for the summer? Must be nice!

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:12 pm

Mutt wrote:

Jeepjeepster wrote:

MoladoGuy wrote:

4wdParakeet wrote:

I removed the 3.7L logo from the right side and put mine there.

Parakeet

Yea that sounds like a great idea. Now if it said CRD I wouldn't touch it, or even 4.0L haha.

Gosh, I wish it had the 4.0. I know the 3.7 has more power, but the 4.0 gets its torque much, much lower than the 3.7. :cry:

..........but did you know that torue and horsepower are always equal at 5252 rpm?

Sorry for the trivia, but I'm hitting the PBR on a Thursday night. BTW, what is this no working for the summer? Must be nice!

Dont know what the heck you are talking about. Always equal at 5252rpm? The 4.0 and the 3.7 are equal?

Anyway, How do you all put these on the back tail-gate? The gate is bent and it does not sit flat at all. And I do not think its a good idea to bend this thing either.

gopherbeats · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:19 pm

Crash Course in Tourque:

http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html

cool stuff... I never knew that before... but it does calculate out

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:44 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

Mutt wrote:

Jeepjeepster wrote:

MoladoGuy wrote:

4wdParakeet wrote:

I removed the 3.7L logo from the right side and put mine there.

Parakeet

Yea that sounds like a great idea. Now if it said CRD I wouldn't touch it, or even 4.0L haha.

Gosh, I wish it had the 4.0. I know the 3.7 has more power, but the 4.0 gets its torque much, much lower than the 3.7. :cry:

..........but did you know that torue and horsepower are always equal at 5252 rpm?

Sorry for the trivia, but I'm hitting the PBR on a Thursday night. BTW, what is this no working for the summer? Must be nice!

Dont know what the heck you are talking about. Always equal at 5252rpm? The 4.0 and the 3.7 are equal?

Anyway, How do you all put these on the back tail-gate? The gate is bent and it does not sit flat at all. And I do not think its a good idea to bend this thing either.

Mine if u look up sits just fine, it barely does not touch on the left side of the badge, but it is secure...

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:55 pm

gopherbeats wrote:

Crash Course in Tourque:

http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html

cool stuff... I never knew that before... but it does calculate out

Wow, that just gave me a new look on torque and Horsepower! I couldnt stop reading!

Back to the topic! How do you out this thing on a curved surface!!

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:59 pm

look up

auggy · **Posted:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:15 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

MoladoGuy wrote:

4wdParakeet wrote:

I removed the 3.7L logo from the right side and put mine there.

Parakeet

Yea that sounds like a great idea. Now if it said CRD I wouldn't touch it, or even 4.0L haha.

Gosh, I wish it had the 4.0. I know the 3.7 has more power, but the 4.0 gets its torque much, much lower than the 3.7. :cry:

An old 4.0 cherokee can definately outrun our 3.7 lib as tested by my friend and I :lol:

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:51 am

Mutt wrote:

..........but did you know that torue and horsepower are always equal at 5252 rpm?

Sorry for the trivia, but I'm hitting the PBR on a Thursday night. BTW, what is this no working for the summer? Must be nice!

That is only true on a linear equation...doesn't not work when hp and torque values curve ect.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:46 am

0311_DoC wrote:

look up

Oh, Sorry, I didnt see your post. Ill take pics of mine when I get home tonight. Its off purty bad, Ive not stuck it on yet.

Eddo · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:01 pm **Posts:** 1214

DarbyWalters wrote:

Mutt wrote:

..........but did you know that torue and horsepower are always equal at 5252 rpm?

Sorry for the trivia, but I'm hitting the PBR on a Thursday night. BTW, what is this no working for the summer? Must be nice!

That is only true on a linear equation...doesn't not work when hp and torque values curve ect.

Not sure what you mean Wally, but they should always cross at 5252 if calculating one from the other. Or if both are determined experimentally, they should still cross somewhere near 5252 with the difference being due to instrument inaccuracies. Yes it is a linear equation, but that has nothing really to do with it. The equation just relates torque to HP at a given RPM. The equation does not produce a curve. A curve is produced experimentally from a dyno run. All the equation allows you to do is calculate HP from Torque or vice verse at one point in time.

Torque is just Work (Force x Distance) Ft*lb or N*m, with is work.
Horsepower is power (Work/time). Since it is rotational you have to use RPM for a time unit and when you do the math you end up with 5252 left over as a constant. That is why the cross at 5252 RPMs

Also remember an XJ weight 700-800 lbs less than a KJ, so it should out run one even if it has a less powerful engine. Attach a 800lbs trailer to an XJ and then race. Also, ever driven a 4.0 in a WJ or ZJ which weighs closer to a KJ at ~4000lbs? Feels more sluggish vs a KJ to me. The 4.0 has a little more grunt off the line, but it feels like it runs out of steam past 15-20mph where the 3.7 keeps spooling up and then really takes off.

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