[quote="DarbyWalters"]OK, I will tell you that the TrailReady is made with the same guage materials that you are using. The Shackle mounts are beefier and go thru the bumper and are welded to both the front side, front inside and back inside. The winch mount is more recessed than your design so the overhang is much less...basically butts right up against the front grill with just a little space. The angles that TrailReady builds into the bumper makes it stonger at the points where they meet. Thier rear bumper is also a super strong unit...I know from experience.
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My d-ring mounts are welded on both sides of the tube. Trail ready is $1400-$1800 and a waste of money in my opinion. As far as winch overhang i beleive it is about the same as TJM and obviously worse than TR but I dont want my winch in front of my grill. TR uses a 3/16" subframe, not 1/4" for the winch or mounts. They use 1/8 which is strong but not strong enough, I dont know why but 3/16" is just beefy. My bumper is strong but I will not be testing its "crash rating" on my jeep.
As to fouros' comments, ARB will bend on a rock where as mine wont, its because they also use thinner outer steel for their styling. I can accomplish a simmilar look while maintaining rock crushing capabilities. Your comment about approach angles only applies to Trail Ready and Rock Lizard's with the multi mount off, its about the same as mine with a multi-mount on. The approach angles are almost the same and I will look into improving on the next bumper but I really like having my winch under my grill line. Here's one for ya...
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