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 Post subject: It's 10:01pm - where's your fuel manager head?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:54 pm 
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For your consideration, here's info on the two Cummins fuel manager heads, one without lift pump, one with lift pump designed for CRD service - should bolt right up to the KJ mounting bracket - as you can see, they are both top-loaders, thus filter change-out suddenly becomes user-friendly - both are the same unit: the '05 is the factory modification for the in-tank lift pump, also part of the '03-'04 factory upgrade kit - simply add Fuel Temperature Sensor to one of the fuel-return line ports and yer good to go............

Also see here: http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... hp?t=26385

Inlet view
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Overall, showing ease of adaptability to KJ real estate
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Outlet view, with fuel heater adaptor\connector and WIF draincock. WIF sensor is missing
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Interior of both types, filter is resident
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Self-explanatory, another option for those wanting an external lift pump
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In the last case, might wanna drop the fuel tank, replace the pressure fittings in the supply line with screw-clamped rubber hose to eliminate all possibility of vacuum leaks - requires a.) two fixes: one at the tank module, another in the tank-to-chassis line, or B.) one fix, with longer hose replacing the short adaptor line - that oem two-piece scheme was necessary to satisfy all configurations

FYI - all plastic fuel lines and the tank are anti-static electrically-conductive material, grounded to the chassis thru the various mounting\attaching schemes.

Show'n'tell installation with pics coming to a forum near you.

Contemplate and enjoy, grasshoppers..................

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Very nice, So you suggest if we go with the last option to replace some fittings at the tank to prevent sucking air?

Can't wait to see the installation.

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Yes - and those wishing to retain the oem head should also consider the fuel-line patch to preclude any leaks as the little mule ages and begins to get long of tooth

BTW - I will be doing the pumpless install, for obvious reasons - only difference should be connecting power and ground locally for the cannister-mounted lift pump

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SEGR; Provent; Magnaflow;
Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
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Intriguing... any idea how much the fuel head with built in lift pump costs (I'm trying to track a part number down for it).

A boating friend turned me on to a Racor fuel filter head with built in lift pump (the "P Series"). I've not been able to find pricing yet... more here: http://www.parker.com/EAD/displayCatalo ... de=Details

Obviously, a MOPAR solution (assuming it doesn't suck) would be better option.

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Because it is a Fleetguard\Cummins part, Dodge shows only break-down parts listing for it, not the complete assembly - I gave up looking, as it took way long enuff just to find the pics

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SEGR; Provent; Magnaflow;
Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
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 Post subject: Fleetguard
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Call your local cummins dealer, and ask if you can come in to look at the fleetguard book. It shows all different types of setup.

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GMCTD,

If you have access to an 04 DR Parts Fiche pdf document, the fuel head with all associated part numbers, etc. is in Figure 14-320 on page 404. if you don't have the documents, you can find a copy @ hemitruckclub.com or I can send you a copy of the one page.


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Correct - also noticing the cap is serviced as #1, the body is serviced as #23 - now, posting the number for the head assembly, it's........................ ?

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SEGR; Provent; Magnaflow;
Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
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Me likes too!! A whole bunch.-- Top loaded filter replacement, built in/attachable lift pump feature, included fuel heater---
I know GMCTD will bring out the details and I can't wait. I hope it will work with the existing electrical connects for the heater power supply and sensor, the WIF connection and physical "bolt on" application. I have NO problem dropping my tank to replace those pressure fittings with hose clamps on the supply line. Can't wait for details. And once again this forum is providing wonderfull, valuable tech info to get these tractors to the 250- 300K miles goal I am going to try to get out of it.

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BTW, Mr64Mopar - thanks for the input - haven't seen you around much since back in Sept\Oct or thereabouts - school knocking you back?

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SEGR; Provent; Magnaflow;
Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
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And here's another part of the story...............

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Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
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I guess I'm not understanding the fuel filter sits inside the unit itself?! Seems awfully small if it does, otherwise I know there's not enough clearance from the hood to add a filter on top.

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And here's another part of the story...............



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Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
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your deleting posts aren't you?

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SEGR; Provent; Magnaflow;
Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
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 Post subject: Added it to the list of Mods
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Looks great to me.
Do the trucks that employ these have another filter? My old backhoe had 5 filters!!!
GMCTD your help has been very valuable to me in purchasing a CRD, thanks.

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Hey, you made it, Rob - welcome aboard 8)

These all have a sand-trap type pre-filter in-tank, but no other oem filter - the element for this head is 5ucron

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GDE Hot '11; EDGE Trail switched
SEGR; Provent; Magnaflow;
Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
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This picture has danced through my head since you posted it. It seem like an option that even with my limited skills, might be willing to try. I'm bleeding air every day now and would love to add a pump, without dropping the fuel tank and going though too much machination. Are there any negatives to choosing this option over the in tank pump?

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