Unveiling of the 08 Liberty

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:15 am

Jeger thats my point all the way, each manufacturer thinks I have a hot selling vehicle here so now I have to make it bigger, has happened to lots of great cars/suvs etc. From Thunderbirds, Broncos, even a great selling Toyota the Rav 4 and others. Oh well maybe thats why I am not working for Jeep but the great State of Ohio! OH and I am not doing this on state time, have the morning off !LOL You know how people talk about state employees :wink:

Tom

sleeve84028 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:17 am

I think the KK will be almost as succesful as the KJ... It's a nice vehicle that has more creature comforts than the model it's replacing. The new Liberty will get a lot of new sales but I doubt it'll get any carryover sales. Honestly out of the hundreds of thousands that were sold, how many KJ's are really being used in an off-road enviornment?

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:24 am

ThunderbirdJunkie you never had a roller dog? OK so thats what we have always called the hot dogs etc in C stores, the ones on the machines rolling all day long till somebody grabs one ! :wink:

Can not live without them, road trip food! Two roller dogs, a Reeses peanut butter cup and a Mountain Dew will take you miles and miles :lol:

tom

Guest · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:29 am

oh THAT'S a roller dog! I've had em, just never heard them called that

I usually grab a Dr. Pepper with mine, and some Combos...because my twisted little theory says that the salt helps absorb the other "fluids". Still doesn't work though:P

And sleeve...to be ULTRA realistic...how many lifted fullsize trucks even go off road? All day you'll see these shined up Chebbies on 35s cruisin around, but most of them are guys with "manhood issues":P

sleeve84028 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:25 pm

Indeed... Don't forget all the H2's that are running around Detroit. Gotta have that tank of an SUV just in case you get hit by an IED???

I still think that the Liberty will be so different that most people who own an existing KJ will probably not consider another one. Creature comforts are a plus, but it's just reskinned in a way and the MPG hasn't gone up.

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:34 pm

kind of my thoughts sleeve84028, did all this to change it but not any better mileage etc. Change just to change, maybe better seats, but if I want better seats I will go aftermarket, seats that lay down, working on that now with mine, spare underneath, stupid idea, oh well :lol:

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:20 pm

T-birdjunkie,

The seats do fold down flat in the newer model KJ's, just not in those of us with KJ's from the first few years.

hyedipin · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 10:20 am **Posts:** 1667

Today I got my invitation for "Jeep Premiere Event" I think it is for August 17th, I have to go back and look at it. It is night event in Manhattan. Prizes and stuff to draw jeep crowd, and I look at the line, KJ is gone, KK is there.

Dodge
Chrysler
Jeep

they have their line up of all vehicles, and KJ has been replaced officially by KK on that little invitation fold-out. I expect KJ to disappear in the week of August 16-20th from Jeep website as well...

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:08 pm

Yep, the Durango, once a manly looking SUV, now looks like a minivan. How sad. I used to want a Durango (before I discovered the KJ).

I'm not bashing the KK, I am bashing DC. The KJ replaced the Cherokee, that had been around forever and was just fine....but it was a completely different vehicle. DC took a great selling SUV in the KJ and changed it way way too much and still calling it a Liberty.

Kinda like the Mustangs of the 60's and early 70's and then they came out with those Pinto-looking Mustang's from `74-78.

Rush345 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:05 pm

I received an invitation too. It arrived today and says the event July 15th is in Golden, Colorado from 6:00PM till 9:00PM Don't know If I'll be able to make it I may have to work that evening. But I might just try to go just for giggles

LEAD

FOLLOW

or GET OUT of THE WAY :shock:

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:49 pm

I think they should only do that here in Toledo, but they never do.............we just give them all the tax breaks to stay here

Pablo · **Joined:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:06 pm **Posts:** 1201

I got one of those invitations too. Bragged about the new warranty.

On the way home I saw a KK with an Enterprise Rental Car sticker on it and temp plates. It looks better in person. It looks like it has a wider stance than the KJ or nitro. Not sure if it does, but it looks that way. I don't dig the tire and departure angles.

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:53 pm

I just wish they would have got around to FIXING the LowerBallJoints after 6 years...replacing the aluminum front diff with a stronger unit...worked on a flat floor for the KJ...had a spine and kept the DIESEL ALIVE. My point is there was still some room for improvement...instead they start a basically all new chassis...they could have just made an Extended KJ to go with the current KJ...they could have made a two door panel wagon...they could have done much more...

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:03 am

agree with you Darby there was a lot they could of done with the platform they currently have but Oh well too late now

Tom

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:59 am

Rush345 wrote:

I received an invitation too. It arrived today and says the event July 15th is in Golden, Colorado from 6:00PM till 9:00PM Don't know If I'll be able to make it I may have to work that evening. But I might just try to go just for giggles

I don't think you are going to make the July 15 date unless it is scheduled for 2008.

Rush345 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:10 am

Sorry about that my bad August 15th thanks .

_UnLiMiTeD_ · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:35 am

still dont like the kk. The improvements that were made for it, were for the people whining it was car-like enough. They did nothing for any offroading, hell they made it worse for offroading and the spare tire is now underneith, i love having it on the back hatch, much easier access.

But im sure it will sell great since only 20% of SUV's ever leave the pavement anyways. Im not bothered too much, there will be plenty of KJ's to choose from, they range form 02-07. By the time i ever want to upgrade from my rene, cars will fly anyways.

JeepNCrowd · **Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:11 pm

Really old post I know. I was searching for something else and came across this. In light of all the commotion with the newer Jeeps (KL, Renegade, and the possibility that the next Wrangler could be IFS) I decided to bring this up fromt the grave.
I was surprised to see such hostility and lack of confidence in the KK. I expected it from the other models (JK,TJ,XJ, etc.), but not as much from the KJ crowd. I understand that it replaced the beloved KJ. In fact, I felt the same way about the KL. But I've been trying to keep an open mind on the KL (I know I'm guilty of occasionally bashing it) and new Renegade (though I will probably never buy either). I see them going through the same thing that the KK's and KJ's went through when they were new. I'm really hoping that in a couple years they will become proud actively wheeling members of our LOST community (I know there's a KL section already).

One of the things I love about LOST is the acceptance. It amazes me how there are still people in some other Jeep clubs and forums who diss (and not in the common jocular way) all non SFA Jeeps. Just last week I had some one ask of Liberties are even considered Jeeps. And a couple of months ago I had a very "influential" member of one of our local clubs imply that I was better off selling my KK and buying a Wrangler, that modding it was pointless as it would never be as capable as even a slightly modded Wrangler. Even after I had conquered stuff in my KK that some of the bigger JK's didn't. Here, however, it doesn't matter what Jeep you drive (MK, XK, KJ, KK, KL etc.) if you wheel it or mod it, then you're welcome. In fact I'm so excited to see one of these "soft roaders" wheel that in Lonestar Lost I'm offering to pay the park admission fee for the first 4x4 KL, MK, and WK2 that joins us and wheels with us at one of our events (PINS excluded). I can't wait to see one get dirty with us. :JEEPIN:

Now to continue this discussion. To all the older original members and KJ owners from the time frame of this original post (I know many aren't active anymore and I don't just mean those who previously posted), after 5 years in production, what is your current opinion on the KK? Has it grown on you? Do you still think it's the ugliest thing Jeep ever made? Just another mall crawler that tainted the Jeep and Liberty name? Or were you pleasantly surprised with it's off-road capabilities, durability (darn rack & pinion), and versatility?
If you still don't like it, no offense will be taken. I know I personally prefer the looks of my KK over that of the KJ. I do not wish to bring up old tensions or start any arguments, I'm just curious to see how views and opinions have changed. Hopefully it will be comforting to the newer future Jeeps coming out that are often ostracized. :POPCORN:

Cherrie 274 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:32 pm

Actual post 37 is a little wrong they un cute'd the KK to try to get male buyers. If your asking KK owners I like mine still impressing me,and going where the going is tuff.

JeepNCrowd · **Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:43 pm

This is open to everybody. KJ only owners, KK only owners, and those brave KJ owners who switched to the Dark Side and now own a KK (but not the KK owners who switched to the KJ. Blasphemy! :jester:

). Again my intent is not to start a flame war, as I'm sure this will get shut down. Just do get peoples honest opinions. I personally don't mind good natured jabs either :-)r

( I know I do that to the KJ's and it's kind of a Jeep tradition).

Unveiling of the 08 Liberty

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