InCommando wrote:
But as to the question: the electronic nannies on the KK seem to work well, but IMHO may take away from what I want out of the experience. They have definitely gone a step further away from looking like an off-roader in stock form with the hidden spare, the worse departure & approach angles as well as an increase in weight & no increase in HP. The KJ was not nearly the departure from the XJ that the XJ was from the SJ ( they killed the SJ Cherokee for the XJ). You younger members may not believe how the XJ was laughed at for years before being accepted. Same with the YJ. With the exception of the D30a & the ease/avaliability of lifts, I don't think the KJ gives away anything to the XJ. I know I have followed stock XJ's everywhere without a problem. The advantage to the KK may be an improved front diff. But I don't know if enough KK's have been banged hard enough to test that for sure, yet.
I couldn't have said it any better. So I'll try anyway.
Nannies are for nanny-cars, not Jeeps, lol. But really, the KJ isn't so powerful or torquey (peak at 4200rpm!) to need ESP. Granted, I spun in both 2WD and "Full Time" 4WD today in the rain, but that was on purpose. The KJ's are pretty controllable. And as for roll mitigation... It can't help off-road, and on-road a KJ will pick up a tire but it will understeer before it flips (don't ask...).
The tire on the back it soo much better than underneath, convenience and off-road.
The KJ is too heavy already, the KK weighing even more is outrageous.
The XJ rocked, as for them being unpopular I can't say - my mom bought both an XJ and a KJ just a few years into their respective productions.
Whoever said 3.7>4.0, stop it. Right now. You know that's a lie. [Flame-proof Suit]3.7/42RLE is possible the worst drivetrain in any Jeep, ever. [/Flame-proof Suit]
The 42RLE is pure sin, any Liberty before it OR any CRD is superior. Also, I like the earlier fog lights which are actually at fog-light level.