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Author:  smithstoo [ Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:39 am ]
Post subject:  KJ & owner happiness
We bought our 06 kj renegade over a unlimted rubicon hands down.

and after going thru all the comparisons. It's a no brainer even more now.

we are not into rock climbers, we are into open desert, & desert washes exploring.
the Stock renagade came with requested options:
4spd auto vlp
3.73 rear end
tow pkg
skid group
smoker's pkg for the coin... :wink:

In the washes it performs flawlessly without effort
for example
no need to hunt for more stable areas in the wash
just point down the middle and get some at 1500 -2000 rpm 4lo) :-)r

complete comfort of refreshments, ac & stereo cd all day long @ 110oF.
we did not even have to air down the tires the whole trip.

most my friends are long time hardcore desert runners & they were quite impressed & amazed with the liberty's effortless wash running abilities.

ie.. it just rides up on top of the sand.
this jeep is really nice to 4 wheel in.

yea there is a few downsides to the renegade.
don't scratch it up
thank goodness for a 20 gallon tank
stero misses track sequence
oil changes come way too soon.

but with all that....
it's still a great Jeep!
and when comparing the kj to the ability of the wrangler 06 or 07.
kj got
more styling
better colors
more road worthy
more stock optioned ameneties
better automatic power train (vlp)
built like a tank without looking like one.
great stock offroad clearance
I hope jeep does right by the liberty in the coming years
and that soccer mom thing- that's just bs......

So if anyone wants a truly all in one vehicle in 4x4 .
no doubt hands down the liberty renegade it the way to go in my book.
Author:  desertkj [ Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:32 am ]
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Glad to hear that you're so happy with the KJ. I know most of my friends act like I have the most hardcore wheeler of the bunch (which I think I do). There are a few flaws in it, but what vehicle doesnt. Otherwise, why would there be mods? However, I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of the new Wrangler Unlimited at my local dealer to see how those compare.
Author:  Myke [ Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:48 am ]
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<3 KJ
Author:  JJsTJ [ Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:49 am ]
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Nice to see another happy customer. :D Time to switch to synthetics to keep those oil/fluid changes at bay a little longer.
Author:  dirtykj [ Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: KJ & owner happiness
smithstoo wrote:
we are not into rock climbers, we are into open desert, & desert washes exploring.

...

In the washes it performs flawlessly without effort

...

most my friends are long time hardcore desert runners & they were quite impressed & amazed with the liberty's effortless wash running abilities.

ie.. it just rides up on top of the sand.


Well I'd agree with you about the desert washes part.

However, the power to weight ratio leaves a bit to be desired. Two weekends ago when we went to Oceano sand dunes, I could not crest a hill in 4LO + 1st or 4LO + D. The 4LO + D combination did get it up closer to the top but the KJ just gave up. To be fair, the Jeep was carrying two adults, two kids, and a load of camping crap in the back :)

She probably could have made it unloaded.
Author:  Eddo [ Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:55 pm ]
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JJsKJ wrote:
Nice to see another happy customer. :D Time to switch to synthetics to keep those oil/fluid changes at bay a little longer.


Always looking for an excuse to push your Amsoil huh? :roll: :D
Author:  smithstoo [ Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:53 pm ]
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JJsKJ wrote:
Nice to see another happy customer. :D Time to switch to synthetics to keep those oil/fluid changes at bay a little longer.



iv'e got only one question..... once i change to synthetic
If the wife is traveling out & about & decides the libby needs a quart of oil.
if she adds dino. what happens?
she ask this very questioned of me so i pass it on to the ones that know.
thanks
bc
Author:  JJsTJ [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:40 am ]
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smithstoo wrote:
JJsKJ wrote:
Nice to see another happy customer. :D Time to switch to synthetics to keep those oil/fluid changes at bay a little longer.



iv'e got only one question..... once i change to synthetic
If the wife is traveling out & about & decides the libby needs a quart of oil.
if she adds dino. what happens?
she ask this very questioned of me so i pass it on to the ones that know.
thanks
bc


Carry an extra qt. of synthetic! :wink: You Can mix dino And Synthetics but it isn't something I would run for an extended period of time. Also, You Shouldn't need to add a Qt. unless you have a leaky engine or are burning a lot of oil. Do what I do on my wifes vehicles, give them a checkup once a month or more. She never checks anything, so I make sure to do it every so often. Good question, I hear it often. THanks for asking!
Author:  JJsTJ [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:41 am ]
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Eddo wrote:
JJsKJ wrote:
Nice to see another happy customer. :D Time to switch to synthetics to keep those oil/fluid changes at bay a little longer.


Always looking for an excuse to push your Amsoil huh? :roll: :D


It is what I do. BTW, Thanks for mentioning MY brand as I didn't! :wink:
Author:  alljeep [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:09 am ]
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JJsKJ wrote:
Eddo wrote:
JJsKJ wrote:
Nice to see another happy customer. :D Time to switch to synthetics to keep those oil/fluid changes at bay a little longer.


Always looking for an excuse to push your Amsoil huh? :roll: :D


It is what I do. BTW, Thanks for mentioning MY brand as I didn't! :wink:


Technically, you do in every post. It's in you signature... 8)
Author:  Eddo [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:23 am ]
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JJsKJ wrote:
smithstoo wrote:
JJsKJ wrote:
Nice to see another happy customer. :D Time to switch to synthetics to keep those oil/fluid changes at bay a little longer.



iv'e got only one question..... once i change to synthetic
If the wife is traveling out & about & decides the libby needs a quart of oil.
if she adds dino. what happens?
she ask this very questioned of me so i pass it on to the ones that know.
thanks
bc


Also, You Shouldn't need to add a Qt. unless you have a leaky engine or are burning a lot of oil. Do what I do on my wifes vehicles, give them a checkup once a month or more. She never checks anything, so I make sure to do it every so often. Good question, I hear it often. THanks for asking!


I know what you mean about not burning oil. My fiance old ford escort use to burn about a 1 quart every 2,000 miles. When I switch to synthetic oil and it didn't burn a drop in about the 6,000 miles I had it in.
Author:  dirtykj [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:56 pm ]
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So, no comment about conquering the dunes? Just pedal to the metal? Would synthetic oil help me there?

:P
Author:  DarbyWalters [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:31 pm ]
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smithstoo wrote:
oil changes come way too soon


Seems like JJsKJ was directing his advice to a legitimate concern. There are more than a few members here that add links to signatures. Good Information is Good Information and that is what we are looking for isn't it? Everytime anyone here puts a link or names a product in their signature, they are letting the rest of us know what they support.
Author:  tskalil [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Dunes
Bill, my experience with dunes is that steep/long ones require power, absence of weight, and good traction. That's why rails, quads, and motorcycles do well on them if set up properly. And that's what was against you - too much weight, not enough traction from your tires, and not enough power to overcome the shortcomings with speed.

As an experiment, when my YJ is rebuilt as a stroker, I've already got large paddle sand tires that I'm going to try at Glamis. With all the weight on the YJ due to skids, armor, heavy bumpers and a winch, it probably still won't be a real goer, but it should be way better than before. I'll also take off the doors and top and some other things. Maybe it will do most of what I want. I'll post what I find.
Author:  JJsTJ [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:12 pm ]
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I want to be there when you do that Ted! :shock:
Author:  smithstoo [ Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:09 am ]
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when i think of jeeps @ the dunes.....
in my mind it's the jeeps on that tv series "RAT Patrol"...
Nothing like a 50 cal on back of the jeep to get the
excitment going.
Seemed that those jeeps & the men that drove'm
worked in tandem drab uniforms & kool googles.
wonder what type of jeep were those.
they almost never seemed to get stuck :wink: right......
i leave the sand dunes to the Masses nothing like a crowd of 10,000 to spoil a good outing
plenty of quite, out of the way adventure for all to be had.
good luck on cresting those dunes. if i see any KJ i'll stop & chat gladly....
BTW first strong west wind is blowing across the imperial valley right this moment.
3 more days of this & summer will have broke.
take care
bc
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