What brand/type of pads?

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:00 am

Idk if any one has ever noticed, it doesnt matter how long I go without washing my jeep, I never have brake dust on my rims. Ive heard that with ceramic pads or carbon metallic pads, you will not get any dust. Does anyone know what type of pads DC used on the libbys?

What brand of pads do you all use to replace them with?

Ive also heard that with ceramic pads, they must heat up before they are any good. They also wear the rotors alot quicker since they are so aggressive.

carbon metallic pads are supposed to be the best.

Anyone know anything about this stuff?

SS-Virus · **Posted:** Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:41 pm

For me, I stop buying Mopar pasd, because they wear so fast, and they are not good in the rain, so now I'm using EBC brakes pads & rotors for about 2 weeks, and they are much better than Mopar, in braking and litter dust. but I don't know yet about how long they will stay good.
They are not ceramics, they call it "Green Stuff".

corwyyn · **Posted:** Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:47 pm

I just replaced my fronts with Duralast semi-metallics from Autozone. I am going to do the rears this weekend when I have the KJ up on stands to install the lift (YAY!). I'll keep an eye on them and let ya know if they give me any dust problems.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:16 pm

I believe we got just the regular pads(dont know what there made of) at advance auto for my brothers cherokee. He would go to school and come back in a week and his rims were caked.

I just cannot figure out why everyone says mopars pads wear to fast. Im at 21k and cannot tell mine have worn at all. I didnt use to drive in the city alot but now I am...

Ill see how they hold up to that. They do seem to take awhile to bite in the rain after driving some time. I believe its some model of bmw that actually applies the brakes ever so often in the rain to keep the rotors dry.. I think thats kinda silly myself. :roll:

Starcrwzr · **Posted:** Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:11 pm

I haven't had to put pads on my KJ yet, but will soon. When I do, it will be Akebono Ceramics. I had a PT Cruiser, and it dusted so bad, that even once a week wasn't enough washing to keep the wheels clean with the original Mopar pads. The Akebono pads, although pricey, felt just like the originals, stopped the car better, and didn't dust at all. Just my $0.02 worth.

streetKJ · **Posted:** Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:37 pm

The amount of dust released really depends on the formulation of the brake pad material. In general however, ceramic pads are better performing pads than OEM with lower noise THAN high performance pads. High performance carbon-metallic formulated pads provide the best stopping power at the expense of high noise (squeaking) and low friction coefficient at lower operating temperatures (braking will suck the first few times after starting your car and driving since the pads have to heat up to provide good friction). I dont think its the ceramic ones that really need a lot of heating up before the ideal friction coefficient --maybe a little, but not as much as carbon based pads.

Manufacturers will go on and on about the different formulations they use, and sometimes you do get good results with new types. The EBC Green Stuff that someone mentioned seems to be a pretty good choice for low noise with high braking power. It's made with organic materials which probably disintegrate cleaner than carbon during braking.

In terms of being gentle on rotors, ceramic should be more gentle than the carbon based pads. Ceramics have good compression strength but weak tensile/shearing strength, so they arent as abrasive on rotors. Since the ferro-carbon type pads like the Hawk HPS I have need heat to get to operating temperature, the iron in the material becomes highly abrasive when the pad material is cool and the brakes are applied.

If doing a brake upgrade, you should definitely upgrade the rotors and not just the pads. Our KJs are notorious for rotor warping, and this was one part where DC definitely skimped on quality. I recommend blank OEM replacement rotors from Brembo, slotted rotors from Powerslot (which I have and love), and cross-drilled rotors from EBC. Generally cross-drilled rotors are prone to cracking since the drilling of the holes weakens the structural integrity of the metal, but reputable brands have the holes made when the rotor is actually cast. Just combine a better rotor, even with cheaper ceramic pads, and you should have much better braking power.

It really all depends on what kind of driving you do though.

What brand/type of pads?

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