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| Author: | FLJeep [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Spare tire "key" |
I noticed the other day that the third lug had a weird end to it....Did some research and found out some locking key is supposed to come with the jeep. Ofcourse I have no key. I have looked in the glovebox and the jack under the backseat to no luck. The dealer has no record of it either. So I am at a lose. Anyone know where we can get another? Can you remove it somehow and replace with a lug? |
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| Author: | KJ-BOL [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:21 am ] |
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Any dealer should be able to take it out and replace it with a regular one - I've been driving without a key for almost 6 months - I'll be in trouble if I get a flat. No key to loosen up any wheel the manufacturer of my particular brand makes only 7 different styles so happens to be that pixeldzn's KJ has the same key as mine & so doeas carmellas ' pixeldzn's other half with the rubicon - I've taken the KJ for tire rotation to my dealer and they did rotate tires and never said a word about the key.... |
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| Author: | Flying J [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:22 am ] |
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Sounds like someone had a locking lugnut on it. Try a larger friendly tire store and they might remove it for you. Also, Sears sells the sockets to remove locking lugnuts. |
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| Author: | chetos [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:35 am ] |
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Flying J wrote: Sounds like someone had a locking lugnut on it. Try a larger friendly tire store and they might remove it for you. Also, Sears sells the sockets to remove locking lugnuts.
Wow! I didn't know sears sold those. What's the point then if an average schmoe can just go and buy this key set! Defeats the purpose doesn't it? |
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| Author: | Skyjump136 [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:02 am ] |
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In theory, anybody with Vicegrips can remove these... |
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| Author: | unixxx [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:27 am ] |
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chetos, you need an impact driver to use the key removal sockets. I just can't see someone going out into a parking lot with a tank of air and an impact wrench to steal some rims/tires. The vehicle next to mine most likely won't have the lugs and will make an easier steal. Has anyone been able to remove a locking lug using these sockets without an impact driver? |
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| Author: | psinsyd [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:14 pm ] |
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I just encountered this @ 3 weeks or so ago. Tried the vise grips with no success. Brought it to NTB and they have a socket that they pound onto it, then use the impact wrench to loosen it. If I remember correctly, it didn't even look damaged. Hope this helps! 
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| Author: | psinsyd [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:16 pm ] |
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Here is the link to the thread I started when I realized I didn't have the key. http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... hp?t=12807
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| Author: | Cacher123 [ Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:21 pm ] |
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Quote: you need an impact driver to use the key removal sockets. I just can't see someone going out into a parking lot with a tank of air and an impact wrench to steal some rims/tires.
Obviously you don't live in NY!!  
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| Author: | ATXKJ [ Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:02 pm ] |
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actually impact wrenchs come in air power , electric power (plug into your cigarette lighter), and mechanical - (hit it with a hammer), mechanicals are very portable - I haven't seen the sockets - but I suspect they're a socket with sharp hardened interior edges - should be fairly small and easy to carry around. Locks keep honest people honest, prevent teenagers from playing with your wheels - they don't stop serious thieves. |
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| Author: | 7873libertee [ Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | demand for spares |
Any idea why the Durangos spares were such a target for theives when the Durange came out, yet I never see KJs with missing spares? Cost of Durango wheel & tire that much more than Liberty? Things that make you go hmmm. 
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| Author: | kickit_in4wheel [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:10 am ] |
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unixxx wrote: chetos, you need an impact driver to use the key removal sockets. I just can't see someone going out into a parking lot with a tank of air and an impact wrench to steal some rims/tires. The vehicle next to mine most likely won't have the lugs and will make an easier steal. Has anyone been able to remove a locking lug using these sockets without an impact driver?
I take mine off with the key, a socket extension, and a breaker bar all the time... |
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| Author: | Fouros [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:14 am ] |
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soft jaw vice grips work when you dont have the key 
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| Author: | bugnout [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:38 am ] |
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I just ran into a similiar problem, I broke my key as I was tightening the last lock in place. It was a McGard, an older model and I didn't have the registration number, and had no luck getting them on the phone to get a replacement. So.... After doing a web search, I found instructions for taking them off, Its very easy and I wondered why I even bothered with locks. You'll need a 12 point 19mm socket (same size as the lugs), a breaker bar, an extension and oh ya, a hammer 
Pound the socket on the lock, then use the breaker bar and extension to remove. The hardest part is getting the lock out of the socket. I used a 3/8 socket extension to pound it out of the 1/2 socket. |
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| Author: | unixxx [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:03 pm ] |
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kickit_in4wheel wrote: unixxx wrote: chetos, you need an impact driver to use the key removal sockets. I just can't see someone going out into a parking lot with a tank of air and an impact wrench to steal some rims/tires. The vehicle next to mine most likely won't have the lugs and will make an easier steal. Has anyone been able to remove a locking lug using these sockets without an impact driver? I take mine off with the key, a socket extension, and a breaker bar all the time... kickit_in4wheel, I mean to use the generic pound-on removal sockets you use when you've lost the key. |
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| Author: | Cacher123 [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:29 pm ] |
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Unfortunately, to steal a spare on a KJ all ya gotta do is reach behind the tire with the correct size wrench and undo the four nuts that hold the entire carrier on. Then you got a tire and carrier in just under 2 minutes flat! I installed one way nuts on my carrier bracket. |
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| Author: | 7873libertee [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | easy removal of spare & bracket |
"Unfortunately, to steal a spare on a KJ all ya gotta do is reach behind the tire with the correct size wrench and undo the four nuts that hold the entire carrier on. Then you got a tire and carrier in just under 2 minutes flat! I installed one way nuts on my carrier bracket. " Reply: 
okay, that just sucks. so excuse my ignorance but the one way nuts then make yours more theft resistant? i guess you thread them on, but they don't thread back off? is that how they are one way? |
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| Author: | Cacher123 [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:10 pm ] |
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Quote: okay, that just sucks. so excuse my ignorance but the one way nuts then make yours more theft resistant? i guess you thread them on, but they don't thread back off? is that how they are one way?
Hard to explain. They look like little pyramids with a threaded hole in the center. You use a special tool to put them on either on top of or in place of a standard nut. Then there is nothing to grip to take them off. They sell them on Ebay for under $5 or so for a set of 2. They work with any stud of the correct size, not just spare tire mounts. |
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| Author: | 7873libertee [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | pyramids |
Okay, I get it. Thanks for the info! |
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