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Author:  meh_kick [ Fri May 04, 2007 11:40 am ]
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What is the concensus on the identification "Second Generation Liberty."

Would you call the 05-07 Liberties 2nd Gen because of the re-design? Or would you call the 08+ 2nd Gen because of the new model?

Thoughts?

I ask because I've always thought of the 05 - 07 as 2nd Gen KJs (making the 08z 1st Gen KK), but only confuse those that I talk to about them....
Author:  Gringo Loco [ Fri May 04, 2007 11:51 am ]
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I would say +05 are second gen KJs and 08 are first gen KKs. I know it's only crazy people like us who will know that but oh well.
Author:  spencevans [ Fri May 04, 2007 12:18 pm ]
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Gringo Loco wrote:
I would say +05 are second gen KJs and 08 are first gen KKs. I know it's only crazy people like us who will know that but oh well.



I agree. I see the +05 kj as the second generation. 2005 was a big change over for the libby. It recieved a new front end, center console, gages, diesel engine etc.
Author:  k99jk99j [ Fri May 04, 2007 2:57 pm ]
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according to wikapedia the 08's are the second generation. mike
Author:  FastTRX [ Fri May 04, 2007 3:03 pm ]
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k99jk99j wrote:
according to wikapedia the 08's are the second generation. mike

2nd generation of the vehicle named the Jeep "Liberty". the 02's-04's are probably known as the first generation of KJs, the 05's-07's are probably classified of the 2nd gen. KJ, and the KK is on it's first gen. production.

But like Gringo Loco said, we'd be the only one who knows/and or cares.
Author:  Jeepjeepster [ Fri May 04, 2007 3:26 pm ]
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Either way, the 02-04 are the best years. :twisted:
Author:  jerbacher [ Fri May 04, 2007 3:26 pm ]
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What about internationally where its still "cherokee" 3rd gen, 4th gen? I dunno...
Author:  chetos [ Fri May 04, 2007 3:31 pm ]
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Jeepjeepster wrote:
Either way, the 02-04 are the best years. :twisted:


Easy, Shooter! 8)
Author:  Gringo Loco [ Fri May 04, 2007 3:31 pm ]
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the original cherokee was the XJ the liberty "cherokee" is still a KJ.
Author:  DarbyWalters [ Fri May 04, 2007 5:14 pm ]
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Just a grill change is not enough to call it a 2nd gen IMHO.

It takes more of a Model change...Size change...New "Letter" as in KK vs KJ

but it all up to interpretation :wink:
Author:  jerbacher [ Fri May 04, 2007 5:21 pm ]
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compromise: 1.5 gen
Author:  myjeepwalks [ Fri May 04, 2007 11:41 pm ]
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Jeepjeepster wrote:
Either way, the 02-04 are the best years. :twisted:


I'll agree to that :wink: :lol:
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sat May 05, 2007 3:12 am ]
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DarbyWalters wrote:
Just a grill change is not enough to call it a 2nd gen IMHO.

It takes more of a Model change...Size change...New "Letter" as in KK vs KJ

but it all up to interpretation :wink:



I second it.
Author:  Sir Sam [ Sat May 05, 2007 3:45 am ]
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jerbacher wrote:
compromise: 1.5 gen


this ends up happening quite often, its only when a chassis is changed that a vehicle is usually considered a second gen...

after all, the changes on the 05+ on pretty minor compared to the differences on the new KK.
Author:  meh_kick [ Sat May 05, 2007 9:25 am ]
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I may be mistaken, haven't some of the Cherokees been referred to as 2nd generation?

Maybe the conversation I overheard was the change from full sized Wagoneers to the XJ as we know it.
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