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Author:  jdumont [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  ARB bumper install
So im considering buying an ARB or Rocklizard because my current bumper is mashed from an accident. What is involved when installing one of these bumpers? Do I replace everything I currently have with what I order or are some of the bumper internals reused? There is no frame damage to the car but there are some brackets underneath buckled. I think those are actually part of the bumper however and will be junked anyways if I get an ARB right?


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Author:  elephantrider [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:00 pm ]
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the entire front bumper cover will come off to reveal this ~
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basically, you put the upper grill back on, slap the arb onto the subframe, and presto, another happy arb owner.

we didnt use anything that was on the bumper originally, except the lighting wires and such.
Author:  jdumont [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:16 pm ]
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Nice, thats pretty much exactly what I was looking for. What did it cost for your ARB. There are no prices on their webpage.
Thanks a lot!
Author:  jdumont [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:24 pm ]
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So the only thing that covers that metal bumper is the plastic fascia? I need to get under there again and see whats going on now that I see your picture. I def have some bent brackets that run perpendicular to the front bumper. Thanks for the image, that will really help.
Author:  elephantrider [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:22 pm ]
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i got a great deal on mine, $700 shipped, it was used, open box.

check around to see if you can find a used one.
otherwise, i think a new one pre 05 model would run $795 - $995...

and yes, thats all that is covering the metal on the front is the plastic cover.
Author:  KJ4ME [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:01 pm ]
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i dont mean to take over the thread but i do have a question...
can they be painted? because black isnt realy workin 4 me...
Author:  elephantrider [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:16 pm ]
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yes you can have it repainted.

whatever the cost is for blasting it then primer and repainting.
Author:  humptyjumped [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:31 pm ]
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On my 04 I reused the wiring harness, driving lights
and turn signals.
Author:  elephantrider [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:54 pm ]
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yeah, they changed the design after the 04.

i got new lights and lenses for the front, but used the same wiring.
Author:  jdumont [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:21 pm ]
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So does the ARB actually bolt to this crossmember that I have arrowed? Or does it bolt to a more secure place on the frame? Mine is slightly damaged (buckled in an inch or two) where the rubber bumper on the drivers side is. I have a come along so I can prob pull it out but wont bother if it doesnt even bolt on to this piece.
Thanks in advance...

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Author:  elephantrider [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:04 pm ]
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no it doesnt bolt up there.

if you look where the bumper caps are.. you take those off, and the subframe is right there.

once you have the plastic cover off and the bumper caps off, you have access to all of that area. you have to get underneath the jeep and drill a couple of holes up into the subframe of the jeep.

there is a subframe that the arb mounts to that you cannot see by just looking a bumper on a kj. you mount the subframe to the jeep, then mount the actual bumper shell to that.

sounds complicated, but its not.
Author:  jdumont [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:34 pm ]
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Does anything touch this crossbrace from the ARB bumper or does it take its reference from the frame only. This is a huge help by the way... thanks for everything so far guys.
Author:  tommudd [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:35 pm ]
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if you need I can send the instructions to you so you can see a little better just pm me your email address


Tom
Author:  jdumont [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:50 pm ]
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Does anything touch this crossbrace from the ARB bumper or does it take its reference from the frame only. This is a huge help by the way... thanks for everything so far guys.
Author:  elephantrider [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:58 pm ]
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the actual bumper shell does not touch on anything except the subframe.

you tighten up the subframe, then loosely mount the shell, this is how you adjust it side to side and up or down.

once you get a copy of the instructions, you'll see it..
Author:  tommudd [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:03 pm ]
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Instructions are flying to you soon :lol: After you look through them ask more questions, sure someone can help you through the install!
Author:  USPLibby [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:19 pm ]
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You'll need some help bolting in the bumper, it's heavy. Probably one guy on each side while you ratchet
Author:  tommudd [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:22 pm ]
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :? I did mine myself with no help at all, well the wife did come out when I started cutting the fenders to show me her new........well... I do have a nice scratch from her help :lol: But with a jack, two milk crates and some luck its no big job, I didnt think :wink:

Tom
Author:  humptyjumped [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:50 pm ]
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USPLibby wrote:
You'll need some help bolting in the bumper, it's heavy. Probably one guy on each side while you ratchet


If you have a hydraulic jack, use that.

Installed mine on my own, with help from my friend, jack...
Author:  unixxx [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:08 am ]
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On 2005 and later models, an ARB bracket sits flush across the length of the stock bumper. The bracket is bolted to both the front of the stock bumper and the inside bottom of the frame rails. The ARB bull bar is then bolted to the bracket. The bracket implements crush provisions behind the bull bar to prevent the airbags from deploying prematurely in the event of an accident.
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