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Author:  InCommando [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:36 am ]
Post subject:  Rear caliper junk

I had a problem with the L/R caliper hanging up. Took it apart & cleaned it up as these are said to have a sticking issue involving the caliper sliding on the mount. Put them back together as the pads & rotors looked OK & the caliper collapsed fine. 2 weeks later the L/R locks up HARD. The caliper is junk. Grrrrr.... Well, it did make it almost 47,000 miles... :evil: The crappy SR/A's outlasted the caliper!

Author:  k99jk99j [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:04 am ]
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so was it the piston that locked up or the slides?

Author:  KJ04 [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:46 am ]
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My rears got replaced at 15,000 mi. under warranty. The service manager also stated at that time there was a national back order on them. So, the dealerships must have been replacing a lot of them.

Author:  jeepkj02 [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:06 am ]
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I'm glad I have drum brakes... 8)

Author:  BeepBeepJeepJeep [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:31 am ]
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jeepkj02 wrote:
I'm glad I have drum brakes... 8)


Why?

Author:  jeepkj02 [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:02 pm ]
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BeepBeepJeepJeep wrote:
jeepkj02 wrote:
I'm glad I have drum brakes... 8)


Why?


Because of the crappy brake calipers KJ's have.

Author:  corwyyn [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:48 pm ]
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Not all the calipers are bad - I have 83k on my '03 and have yet to replace the rears (but I check them every oil change). I've never noticed any problems with the brakes on either end, other than the abortive attempt to use semi-metallic instead of ceramic pads. I'll never do that again...

Author:  BeepBeepJeepJeep [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:52 pm ]
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jeepkj02 wrote:
BeepBeepJeepJeep wrote:
jeepkj02 wrote:
I'm glad I have drum brakes... 8)


Why?


Because of the crappy brake calipers KJ's have.


I just recently had to replace my right rear caliper. The Jeep has 118k on its clock... The caliper cost me $40 and took 10 minutes to install... I'd take that any day over the many disadvantages drum brakes has.

Author:  tommudd [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:49 pm ]
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yep not all rear calipers are bad, 97000 plus, and still the original calipers/ disc brake pads etc all around, and still in pretty good shape, they will go 100,000 miles easy.
Its like everything else made by man there will be a few that have problems

Author:  Jeepjeepster [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:44 pm ]
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I had to replace a right rear caliper this past summer. Had around 25k on it at the time.

Wasnt really a big deal though. $60 and 30min is all it took to change it out.

Ended up getting the new caliper at Napa.

And its the piston that seizes, not the slide pins.

Author:  InCommando [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:43 pm ]
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k99jk99j wrote:
so was it the piston that locked up or the slides?


My pistons froze. I originally thought it was the slide. I took it apart & cleaned/lubed everything & put it back together. That worked fine for a couple of weeks & then the piston locked up.

The pisser was that I had to have the jeep & the only place that ws both open and had the caliper was Advance. I'd like to have gone with a different company, to be honest. Oh, well. Like they said: at least it is an easy job.

Author:  Maximum Carnage [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:23 am ]
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BeepBeepJeepJeep wrote:
jeepkj02 wrote:
I'm glad I have drum brakes... 8)


Why?


To me it seems that drums brakes last a lot longer than caliper brakes.

Author:  dgeist [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:01 pm ]
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Maximum Carnage wrote:
BeepBeepJeepJeep wrote:
jeepkj02 wrote:
I'm glad I have drum brakes... 8)


Why?


To me it seems that drums brakes last a lot longer than caliper brakes.


Typically, they do, but they're a PITA to replace when they do go bad, are much harder to evacuate debris/water from (and hence often subject to early corrosion, etc on a trail rig), don't modulate as well for tricky braking manuvers, and are WAAAY harder to inspect for wear.

I'd change my rear calipers to disc units in a second on my full-size van if the conversion wasn't expensive and required changing out the master cylinder.

Author:  tjkj2002 [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:11 pm ]
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dgeist wrote:
Maximum Carnage wrote:
BeepBeepJeepJeep wrote:
jeepkj02 wrote:
I'm glad I have drum brakes... 8)


Why?


To me it seems that drums brakes last a lot longer than caliper brakes.


Typically, they do, but they're a PITA to replace when they do go bad, are much harder to evacuate debris/water from (and hence often subject to early corrosion, etc on a trail rig), don't modulate as well for tricky braking manuvers, and are WAAAY harder to inspect for wear.

I'd change my rear calipers to disc units in a second on my full-size van if the conversion wasn't expensive and required changing out the master cylinder.
But we that have the rear drums have a way better parking brake which is key for me at least when rock crawling,don't want my KJ rolling down a steep mountain because the parking brake failed :shock: .

But rear discs stop you much better.

Author:  dgeist [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:22 pm ]
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tjkj2002 wrote:
But we that have the rear drums have a way better parking brake which is key for me at least when rock crawling,don't want my KJ rolling down a steep mountain because the parking brake failed :shock: .

But rear discs stop you much better.


No argument there.. probably a big reason many full-size work vehicles still have them. Braking == pretty important. Staying put with e-brake on == VERY important :)

Author:  BeepBeepJeepJeep [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:35 pm ]
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Maximum Carnage wrote:
BeepBeepJeepJeep wrote:
jeepkj02 wrote:
I'm glad I have drum brakes... 8)


Why?


To me it seems that drums brakes last a lot longer than caliper brakes.


That's because they don't work as hard to stop you

dgeist wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
But we that have the rear drums have a way better parking brake which is key for me at least when rock crawling,don't want my KJ rolling down a steep mountain because the parking brake failed :shock: .

But rear discs stop you much better.


No argument there.. probably a big reason many full-size work vehicles still have them. Braking == pretty important. Staying put with e-brake on == VERY important :)


I myself have had several issues with my parking brake off-road, and thus I will never walk away from my truck running and out of gear ever again on any kind of hill. Only reason I leave it on when I'm not in it is because it's cold out and my girlfriend needs the heat (she's tiny)

Author:  InCommando [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:47 pm ]
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These parking brakes seem to work best when applied like a ratchet, pulling up slowly a click at a time. I have not had a problem with the Jeep slipping backwards.

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