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 Post subject: Why don't you yanks buy news Jeeps?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:15 am 
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Yesterday Chrysler publiced the june 2008 sales. The Jeep brand is 40% down!! :?
I do not understand that. A new Liberty costs only $ 22,000 in the US. That's a bargain!
In Holland a Liberty 3.7 sport 4x4 costs $ 66,000!! Thats triple your price.
Please keep the brand alive and buy new Jeeps again.
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No. No more new Jeeps for me. Used newer ones maybe but I will never buy a new car again.

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Because I love my KJ (it is just getting to where I want it) and I think the KK is ugly. :wink:

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lol im the same as everyone else, dont like some of the new models, and I love my KJ and dont need another vehicle right now.........although I am kind of looking for a cheap older Wrangler thats a 5spd

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I'm too cheap to buy anything... I really do need a new pair of socks though.

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bought my kj with 12 miles on it. new. ill never buy new again. my next jeep is going to be a YJ. or a old willys if i can find one in good condition.


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I was at the dealership this morning getting my passenger mirror replaced (I hit a mailbox :lol: ), well I was strolling through the lot and came upon the Compass Rally only 24 MPG on the highway and a cool 30k sticker price, no thank you. The patriot was a but cheaper 24k I think but still only 24 MPG, and these are little 4 cycl cars! Then up to the Wrangler 4 door, 30k for the X model and 12 to 15 city MPG. I am sorry but with todays technology and the need for more fuel effecient vehicles I am not buying a car/truck/jeep that gets 12 MPG off the lot.

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 Post subject: If I could get the euro-spec JK, I might
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if the US wrangler were offered with the engine options that you Euro folks can get, I might consider it, but for now, I'll be driving my 05 CRD into the ground...

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I don't like the boxy ugly (IMHO) look of the new models.

Now, if Jeep came out with the electric Renegade (not the KJ Renegade but the sportster, two seater one) then I'd be game.

Other than that, I'll just keep my curvy not-boxy KJ's and maybe SFA one of them in the future.

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Americans are still in shock over $4/gallon gas - so anything not a Prius is having sales problems.

(and no - you don't have to mention how cheap that is compared to Holland's $7-8/gallon)

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Although the $22k sounds inexpensive, you have to realize that the cost of gas has more than doubled in the past 2 years. Whether U.S. gas prices are cheap, relative to the rest of the world is immaterial. The important thing is, our fuel costs have more than doubled in 2 years. Therefore, our disposable income has gone down dramatically. With the higher cost of fuel, and corresponding lower amount of disposable income, it's more difficult to buy ANY new vehicle, let alone an SUV.

Frankly, I love my 'Libby', and don't want to trade her off. However, when I become gainfully employed again, (I was laid off, 3 weeks ago), I will most likely look for an economy car that will be able to cover the payments. I figure I will probably save about $200/month on gas, which will probably be just about what I'm looking for, in the way of a car payment. So............I can either pay that much in gas/month driving my Liberty, OR........I can save wear and tear on my 'baby', use Libby on the weekends, and be good with the world.

I CAN'T afford to buy a NEW gas guzzler: I'll stick with my CURRENT gas guzzler. Besides, I'm just starting to get my Jeep broken in: If I got a new one, I'd have to start modifying all over again. (Although, that's not a BAD idea......)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:02 am 
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No. No more new Jeeps for me. Used newer ones maybe but I will never buy a new car again.


I too well never buy a brand spanking new vehicle, no even a Jeep. This was my first and last brand new vehicle.

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when I can get the deisel Compass that gets 66mpg's here in the States then I will buy new again. Other than that it's used all the way for me.

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One of the big things that are affecting US sales is so many people bought over-priced real estate during a time when all you needed to qualify for a mortgage was fog a mirror. Then everyones rates started adjusting on their interest only loans and forclosures went rampid.

Basically, the average consumer is really bad with money and many people a maxed out. There is a party here in the US who vows to protect these people from preditory lenders if only they will vote for them.

I wasn't stupid and it worked great for me because I was able to buy a house in Ft Lauderdale for half what is was going for the year before. I'd buy a new Jeep if they offered another model like the one I own. The KK is not bad at all, just no CRD option.

Sales of Jeeps are down, but so is personal responsibility.

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JL Rockies wrote:
Sales of Jeeps are down, but so is personal responsibility.


Quoted for truth. I got so beat up last year talking to some of my wife's friends here (NC) about real estate when we first moved here. All were adamant that real estate investment is the "right way to go" (in a bubble, everybody is a financial genius), and that the builders SURELY would stop building (in 2007) if they weren't making money hand over fist.

Fast forward to today ... some of those same friends are making mortgage payment with credit cards. Houses they can't sell for one reason or another (one encroached on city right of way, should have checked first), rental houses underwater, etc.

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I like a lot of the other posters are just not that impressed with the new designs. I love my KJ, bought it new with only a few miles on her. I am now at roughly 88,000 and still love it. I am planning on having it for at least 5 more years. As for the gas mileage, I was in Australia for a bit and know how cheap gas is here so while I do get a little shocked from time to time, it IS cheap. What does it mean for me personally, a few less Starbucks and a few more 7-11 cups :D

Besides, I have no idea why so many people would sell off their car, if they owe on it, roll the negative equity into a newer vehicle that saves gas but now your car payment is nearly double. That just baffles me. Luckily I paid off my kj so everything from here on out is gravy.

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I've thought about selling the KJ and buying a beater XJ or TJ, along with an electric car for my wife to tool around town with. For long trips, we would take the Prius. I just can't part with the KJ, though. I've grown too attached to it. I also have to wait a couple of years for plug ins to be available. In the mean time, I'm working on setting up a solar generator.
Solar power + electric car = no worries about gas, electric, NG prices :)

The only new Jeep I would consider is the JK. Not too crazy about all the other new Jeep models.

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Who cares about gas mileage,I don't.Then again I will not be buying a new vehcile either since I'm dumping about $18,000 in my KJ this year,I'll pretty much have a brand new 2002 KJ 8) !

All the newer vehicles are junk in my opinion,to many standard techno gizmo's on them for my taste,I have no need for ABS,ESP(the devil!!!!!),or traction control.I learned how to drive,I don't need $10,000 worth of computers telling me how.


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I did buy a brand new jeep, 21 Nov 2003 i got my 04 Columbia Edition. . . and until i roll her, total her, or she just gives up i will stick with my 04. besides i am not done with the mods on my 04. . . And there is NO WAY i would get a KK, nor a wrangler i am having too much fun in my KJ. And like stated before too much electronic stuff, i don't want an electric switch to put me in 4lo or 4hi.

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Even though I could afford a new vehicle I refuse to take the depreciation hit or make payments for 72 months. The payments on Eugene are just about right $255 for 48, was shoot for $250 though.

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