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Author:  riptricket [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  NEW RL PRODUCT
Jeep Liberty Komodo Dragon Light Duty Rear Bumper
Author:  jeepkj02 [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:21 am ]
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No hitch, no tire carrier. I'd rather get the HD version for the extra $170 and atleast have the option to add the tire carrier if I wanted to in the future.
Author:  riptricket [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:23 am ]
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I know, i have the HD version, but I just wanted to get RL's business happening, so he can make more money to get the front bumpers started!!!
Author:  KJ Taz [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:31 am ]
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It sounds interesting, but it doesn't seem to save you enough money to out weight having the ability to add options down the road. I do like the idea though as I don't really wheel my Liberty. I wonder just how much weight you actually save by going with that bumper?
Author:  tonycrd [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:07 pm ]
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Great idea! I wonder how much shipping would be on that bumper.... :(
Author:  omGoddard [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:09 pm ]
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No pics.... :( But darn, bumpers for the KJ are fn' expensive.
Author:  Maximum Carnage [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:17 pm ]
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The Komodo Dragon Light Duty Rear Bumper has been on his web site for a while now. Yeah the HD bumper makes more sense for only y $170 extra. Weird how new item keep coming up but no front bumper.
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:21 pm ]
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Maximum Carnage wrote:
Weird how new item keep coming up but no front bumper.
That would be becuase there was no design/R&D time for the light duty rear bumber since it is the same as the HD bumber minus some parts and 1/8" steel vs 3/16" steel.

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omGoddard

No pics.... But darn, bumpers for the KJ are fn' expensive
It looks the same as the HD bumber.Steel is not cheap,either is quality welds.The amount of time that it actually takes to build one of the HD bumbers would blow your mind,then you'd think it is a bargian then.
Author:  Rock Lizard [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:24 pm ]
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$895 (HD) - $650 = $245 :?: , and the HD bumpers are going up atleast 5% if not more the beginning of 09.

As far as new products before the front bumper goes, the LD rear took a 2 minute phone call "delete the cutout for the hitch and delete the holes for the carrier spindles, make the bumper shell out of 1/8" instead of 3/16" and that's all". Sliders and roof racks use the same simple jigs, took only a few hours to design, and are made entirely in house, so very little cost involved in design and prototyping. The KJ, KK and XJ sliders are all slightly different in some of the lengths, but they are all built in the same jig, so no time spent building new jigs. The HD rails, sport and basket racks all use the same jig for all KJ's, so same goes for that jig.

The front bumper has to be designed differently for two models of KJ. During the design and test fit phase I keep making changes here and there to make sure it is going to be right when they do go into production. The rear bumper went through 6 generations of changes before it got to where it is now, and it was a lot simpler to design than the front. I'm not wanting to do that with the front bumper, just want it right the first time. When prototypes now cost me over $1200 each just for one set of cut and formed bumper parts, plus time and cost to put them together, I don't want to screw up too many times. When the fronts are done, people will be impressed, I promise. The front designs are done for the most part, just making little tweaks here and there with my poster board mockups to rule out higher possibilities of someones jeep being just a little "off". ARB front bumpers are awesome bumpers, with almost 0% difference between them, and with ARB having sold god knows how many, even one person on here didn't get one to line up right without making alterations. It's not rocket science, but it isn't a dot to dot coloring book either.
Author:  riptricket [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:17 pm ]
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i am still sold on all of your products, just need the money to fuel your fire!!!
Author:  Gopher [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:23 pm ]
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I think the LD bumper is a great idea. Bullocks to all you nay-sayers :twisted:

I am curious about the weight difference though. I don't think I'll need the tire carrier, but I love the look of the bumpers and the improved departure angle. My KJ is already heavy enough for this Texas mud and the more weight I can save the better.

I was also wondering how easy it would be to mount a 102" whip antenna on either side of the bumper and run the wires into the KJ?
Author:  Fulltimer [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:13 pm ]
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There shouldn't really be a problem mounting an antenna. Just drill a hole for the antenna mount.

Terry
Author:  JL Rockies [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:20 pm ]
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The thing I like most about the new bumper is mine now becomes the HD model! :twisted:
Author:  riptricket [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:01 am ]
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agreed!!!
Author:  Guest [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:05 am ]
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The LD is the way I'd go were I to have a rear bumper cover more mangled than the one I have now. I don't have any plans to need or want an HD tire carrier or anything like that, but it'd be a nice place to mount a CB antenna and it'd be nicer to have some room for some more a-holish stickers for tailgaters to read before they eat said bumper:D

Perhaps around Feb '09 RL and Co. should have the front ready for a certain little blue KJ's tax return so they can go on simultaneously?

Or perhaps ThunderbirdJunkie is dreaming.

Yeah, probably that last one :lol:
Author:  calcrd [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Questions for Rock Lizzard
Does the LD rear bumper allow for using the spare tire in the OEM mount without modification?
What are shipping costs to San Francisco Bay area ?

Thanks !
Author:  Inc [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions for Rock Lizzard
calcrd wrote:
Does the LD rear bumper allow for using the spare tire in the OEM mount without modification?
What are shipping costs to San Francisco Bay area ?

Thanks !

PM Rock Lizard, check his site or call him to find a shipping quote and info.



Without a rear hitch the bumper becomes useless for me. Otherwise sounds great, even though it is pricey.
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:41 am ]
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I have the HD rear bumper on order. 8) I’m not trying to persuade anyone, but………… the benefits of the HD do not stop at the tire carrier. Additional advantages include the jerry can carrier with a mounting place for a hi-lift. Also, the built in hitch receiver may come in handy. And, when you’re not using the hitch receiver for towing purposes, you could use it for a receiver shackle. These added benefits may not be a big deal for some, but these are the reasons why I‘m buying the RL HD bumper. The weight difference between the HD and LD bumpers are probably less than 35 pounds. However, the total cost difference is pretty big if you add in both carriers. You’re talking $1,700 for the whole kit and kaboodle. However, for those who are like me and have to piece things together, you can always buy the HD bumper and then later order one carrier at a time. For what I do and where I travel, these bumpers are insurance for me. 8)
Author:  nosnorb_808 [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:21 am ]
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I would be interested in the LD if it came with the attachments & accesories (tire carrier, Hilift jack etc...).
Author:  Tokyojoe [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:36 am ]
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It probably wouldn't be strong enough to hold those.
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