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Author:  daspes [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  LOX instead of CO2?

Does anyone know if is it possible/wise to use Liquid Oxygen instead of CO2 in an air tank? I have access to LOX at work and their isn't a single place on the island to get my CO2 tank filled, so I was thinking, CO2 is liquid in the tank, oxygen is liquid in the tank, why not right?

Author:  HoppedUpOnGoofballs [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:59 pm ]
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CO2 = not flammable
Oxygen = BOOM!!!


..I wouldnt mess with it (well, I would, but not for this type of usage)

Author:  daspes [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:01 pm ]
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HoppedUpOnGoofballs wrote:
CO2 = not flammable
Oxygen = BOOM!!!


..I wouldnt mess with it (well, I would, but not for this type of usage)



oh yeah, well there is that...

Author:  HoppedUpOnGoofballs [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:05 pm ]
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daspes wrote:
HoppedUpOnGoofballs wrote:
CO2 = not flammable
Oxygen = BOOM!!!


..I wouldnt mess with it (well, I would, but not for this type of usage)



oh yeah, well there is that...



Yeah.. Id hate to see you blow your jeep up (its kinda cool-looking), or yourself for that matter.

Author:  durangotang [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:27 pm ]
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Well should either one leak, your options are either C02 asphyxiation or a sudden boom. Both are likely to be painless ways to go... go with the cheaper one haha

Author:  Wasatch15 [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:14 pm ]
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High pressure oxygen is very dangerous (flammable) around greases and oils :shock: :shock: . Go with CO2 or nitrogen.

Author:  rescu2000 [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:29 pm ]
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I heard a story from a fire training about guys using propane (cuz they had propane tanks on their farm trucks) to fill tires. One truck caught on fire and when the tires blew, it flipped the truck upside down!

Author:  Sir Sam [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:16 am ]
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rescu2000 wrote:
I heard a story from a fire training about guys using propane (cuz they had propane tanks on their farm trucks) to fill tires. One truck caught on fire and when the tires blew, it flipped the truck upside down!


Propane is a good refrigerant, so back when r12 went off the market people started refilling the systems with propane.......hehehe

Author:  Wasatch15 [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:40 am ]
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Why would anyone want to fill up a system of pipes that go through their house and contain a flammable gas heavier than air in a coil above their furnace so when the leak happens they get a heavy flammable gas cloud heading to their pilot flame? :shock: :shock: WOW. No wonder people have bad accidents.

Author:  Blue KJ in PA [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:12 am ]
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Wasatch15 wrote:
Why would anyone want to fill up a system of pipes that go through their house and contain a flammable gas heavier than air in a coil above their furnace so when the leak happens they get a heavy flammable gas cloud heading to their pilot flame? :shock: :shock: WOW. No wonder people have bad accidents.


To quote a very funny man..."You can't fix stupid!"

Author:  ROWA [ Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:39 pm ]
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Lox would not be a good decision. As a cryogenic liquid it would need to be refrigerated to -297degF. If it warm to -235degF it turns into a gas and expanding by a factor of 800.
Oxygen is a "NONE FLAMABLE GAS" it is an oxidizer and will cause an increased/accelerated burn rate. E.G. Acetylene torch, the Acetylene is the fuel the Oxygen makes it hotter.
:)

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