Saw my first rolled Liberty tonight

sleeve84028 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:14 pm

It was a 02-04 variant, I believe a sport model with a bunch of 16 year olds in it. Single car accident with the KJ on its roof.

Hope it wasn't anyone from the boards because I really don't know how someone can roll over a KJ with no help, on a paved road where the speed limit was only 35 MPH.

Guest · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:21 pm

If you roll a KJ in that situation, you would roll a Corvette or anything else...

BjBnet · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:32 pm

I heard several times that KJs are prone to rolling over as much as the next SUV.... is that true?
I'm always so paranoid in turns so I take them pretty slow, especially after the Frankenlift.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:38 pm

BjBnet wrote:

I heard several times that KJs are prone to rolling over as much as the next SUV.... is that true?
I'm always so paranoid in turns so I take them pretty slow, especially after the Frankenlift.

I drive my KJ like it's a Porsche 911,no worry here and I'm lifted 3.75".

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:42 pm

I enjoy all of that low weight (skids, bumper, sliders) to keep me from rolling.

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:44 pm

couple hundred pounds of skids and what not should actually help keep it rubber side down

superj · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:45 pm

the wheel base on these seems pretty wide. it seems alot harder to roll these then other suvs like the xterra, grand cherokee, and exploders. and i flew around corners in my skinny grand cherokee on stock tires and i never even pulled hte inside wheels off hte ground

Inc · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:46 pm

ThunderbirdJunkie wrote:

If you roll a KJ in that situation, you would roll a Corvette or anything else...

How in the world do you know that?

sleeve84028 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:52 pm

I'm pretty sure that the kids were able to roll the KJ (straight road) probably because of speeding or other fool-hattery.

I should have gotten a picture.

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:28 pm

I've only managed to lift a side once and it was intentional, I don't typically run around tryin to 2 wheel it but ocassionally I do get a wild hair

theres a couple turn pikes back home that are perfect for it considering theyre attached to roads that typically get about 100 vehicles a day

it seems to have the tendancy to skate flat instead of lift , not sure how it would behave with MTR's or whatever but it seems more roll pitch behaved than my mothers CRV

now my old 87 bronco II .. that f'er was roll happy and had no manners what so ever, and thats exactly what it ended up doing, rolling

but just like tjkj said.. ya get stupid with it and you can roll anything, won't matter if it's a vette, and I did almost flip a vette once and had to repair the drivers side of the body due to it scrubbing the ground

Guest · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:34 pm

Inc wrote:

ThunderbirdJunkie wrote:

If you roll a KJ in that situation, you would roll a Corvette or anything else...

How in the world do you know that?

Because the only thing that causes a single-car rollover is idiocy and/or negligence :roll:

ThunderbirdJunkie's '89 Isuzu Trooper owner's manual said it best.

"You would not take a sports car off road so do not drive this vehicle like a sports car"

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:33 pm

The NHTSA report on SUV rollovers - said most were 'tripped'

i.e. they slid sideways and hit a curb or went off the road, blew a tire ect.

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:36 pm

or sometimes a combo of both, ie: lifting a side , over correction, side slamming down and a rear tire blowing, it chews pavement from overcorrection, bites in, 2nd over correction and it goes for a sail

usually doesn't end very well

ShafferNY · **Joined:** Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:51 pm **Posts:** 88

It's not hard to do. My sister put her '03 Sport up on it's side last winter.

She was traveling down a road went the rear end broke loose, swung around and then caught dry pavement. Her tires were the stock Goodyears and had marginal tread.

She must have going slow, because when they flipped it back over, there was almost NO damage to the Jeep. In fact, it was only in the body shop for two or three days to fix the minor damage.

It certainly taught me a lesson when I pulled up to the accident scene and saw my sister's Jeep on it's side.

chefdab · **Posted:** Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:57 pm

JeepinJarhead03 wrote:

or sometimes a combo of both, ie: lifting a side , over correction, side slamming down and a rear tire blowing, it chews pavement from overcorrection, bites in, 2nd over correction and it goes for a sail

usually doesn't end very well

I'm pretty sure all of that was involved when my wife rolled my Liberty. Since it was literally right around the corner from my house, there was no way she got it going that fast. 30-35 max. It had a Rusty's coil lift and MT/Rs with the rear swaybar removed.

Guest · **Posted:** Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:33 pm

Nevermind the physics of the accident.
There is always one common denominator.

ThunderbirdJunkie wrote:

Because the only thing that causes a single-car rollover is idiocy and/or negligence

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:39 pm

and from my experience on crash rescue, most of them happen within walking distance from the house

i guess people relax a 'lil' too much on that home stretch

xturboexpress · **Joined:** Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:43 am **Posts:** 75

chefdab wrote:

It had a Rusty's coil lift and MT/Rs with the rear swaybar removed.

There's your problem. =)

Guest · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:43 pm

Apparently you have never driven a lifted KJ with no rear swaybar.

They are more stable that way than they are stock with a rear swaybar.

And again, more to the point...ThunderbirdJunkie never rolled his CJ5 (on pavement) which had no swaybars, so what say you to that?

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:35 pm

and CJ5's were about as roll happy as they get, only thing that rolls more graceful than a CJ5 is a Ball

ohv-kj didn't seem to be having any problems with his sways disconnected and he was going about 15 mph faster than he thought he was due to his tire change when i was out there :lol:

to be honest, his jeep kinda looked like a gigantic remote controlled 4x4 going around one of the bypass loops because when the body tilted with the roll all you saw was tire and suspension

I want one

Saw my first rolled Liberty tonight

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