Another KJ buggy

KJWildman · **Posted:** Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:08 pm

Four Wheeler magazine has a feature on a SFA KJ in their OCT issue. Not just another rock buggy, but a street legal, licensed street/offroad KJ. Yes it has a fiberglass body but this one actually retains most of the looks of a Liberty. Based out of Mesa, AZ with a 5.7 450hp V8 and a value of $80k :shock:

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I LIKE :lol:

http://www.fourwheeler.com/featuredvehi ... index.html

ridenby · **Posted:** Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:33 pm

Cool buggy for sure

Hood297 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:07 pm

That thing is awesome! And almost the whole hood and 1/2 the grille are intact haha

KJWildman · **Posted:** Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:02 pm

Hood297 wrote:

And almost the whole hood and 1/2 the grille are intact haha

I know , that's what I'm sayin' . It still mostly looks like a KJ! At least it's not one of those little half hoods with the 3 slot grill !

callaway · **Posted:** Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:25 pm

Looks good for sure, but at what point does the build cease to be the model it's built off of ?
When you change the engine ? when you redo the chassis ?

When did the KJ stop being a KJ and become a 'buggy' ?

nightdrv · **Posted:** Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:34 pm

callaway wrote:

Looks good for sure, but at what point does the build cease to be the model it's built off of ?
When you change the engine ? when you redo the chassis ?

When did the KJ stop being a KJ and become a 'buggy' ?

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STINGN · **Posted:** Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:58 pm

gutting it, changing the whole physics of it makes it a different vehicle

KJWildman · **Posted:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:04 am

callaway wrote:

Looks good for sure, but at what point does the build cease to be the model it's built off of ?
When you change the engine ? when you redo the chassis ?

When did the KJ stop being a KJ and become a 'buggy' ?

When JJ or USAFCOP or OHV_KJ or any of the SFA guys are building their KJ, they are still basically using the original unibody for their attachment points ( with some beefed up support of course ) for all the suspension pieces. As soon as a new full custom chassis goes under it as the base platform, and the body is just pieces bolted on, IMHO, it ceases to be a KJ and becomes a KJ Buggy. ...... I think

( or is it because they called it a buggy in the mag.? )

Murphyman · **Posted:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:55 am

callaway wrote:

Looks good for sure, but at what point does the build cease to be the model it's built off of ?
When you change the engine ? when you redo the chassis ?

When did the KJ stop being a KJ and become a 'buggy' ?

When it looks like THAT. It's like defining love, you just know

corwyyn · **Posted:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:00 am

larryewaller wrote:

Hood297 wrote:

And almost the whole hood and 1/2 the grille are intact haha

I know , that's what I'm sayin' . It still mostly looks like a KJ! At least it's not one of those little half hoods with the 3 slot grill !

Um, you might want to go back and look at the photos again?

Not a bad buggy but definitely not based on an actual KJ.

KJWildman · **Posted:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:11 am

corwyyn wrote:

larryewaller wrote:

Hood297 wrote:

And almost the whole hood and 1/2 the grille are intact haha

I know , that's what I'm sayin' . It still mostly looks like a KJ! At least it's not one of those little half hoods with the 3 slot grill !

Um, you might want to go back and look at the photos again?

Not a bad buggy but definitely not based on an actual KJ.

oops

well.... it's still a nice looking ..... buggy/KJ/ trail rig/ offroader !

Rich · **Posted:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:13 am

When does it stop being a Liberty? Well when they say this about it,

Quote:

The foundation for Vokoun's rig is a quality Campbell Enterprises Custom Fabrication chassis. There are many cool features integrated into the fat-free chassis, including removable nerf bars. The Jeep Liberty-based bodywork is fiberglass with tinted Lexan doors...

IMHO this is about as close as a NASCAR team calling their car a Chevy Malibu or Ford Fusion. The cars have nearly NOTHING in common with an actual production vehicle. :roll:

dgeist · **Posted:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:43 pm

Rich wrote:

When does it stop being a Liberty? Well when they say this about it,

Quote:

The foundation for Vokoun's rig is a quality Campbell Enterprises Custom Fabrication chassis. There are many cool features integrated into the fat-free chassis, including removable nerf bars. The Jeep Liberty-based bodywork is fiberglass with tinted Lexan doors...

IMHO this is about as close as a NASCAR team calling their car a Chevy Malibu or Ford Fusion. The cars have nearly NOTHING in common with an actual production vehicle. :roll:

At least a NASCAR malibu uses an engine made by GM...

LibertyFever · **Posted:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:35 pm

I've seen similar discussions on other forums go on forever and a day as to when it is no longer a Jeep. Once you begin pulling out the stock components and begin swapping in bigger engines & axles.

That street legal "buggy" is sweet and it does look a bit like a Liberty from a certain angle but that's all. The rest of the "buggy" is definitely not a Liberty.

USAFCOP · **Posted:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:44 pm

Buggy not Libby, but it is the closest thing to it Fourwheeler will put in their crap rag w/o bashing

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