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I just replaced my Gen 3 arms with the new 4.5 Arms after one of the Gen 3 broke. Now I am having an issue of the tire rubbing the arm just above where the arm connects to the knuckle. I am running 255/70/16 tires on the factory rims. Anyone else had this issue? Any suggestions other than grinding the arms down or running wheel spacers? Is anyone running 245/75/16 on stock wheels with a Frankenlift and JBA GEN 4.5 control arms?

Here is a picture of the problem.

I am running 265/75/R16's stock rims with the gen 4.5 A Arms and mine still have some clearance. I think it looks like you are missing the spacer?. . .

I have the 3.5's and my 255/701/16's rub on the arm part using stock rims. I just noticed it like a week ago, so my tires have rubbed the powder coating off.

I'm going to pick up some soft 8's with 4" BS to try and fix my problem, might be the way to fix yours.

501 wrote:

I have the 3.5's and my 255/70/16's rub on the arm part using stock rims. I just noticed it like a week ago, so my tires have rubbed the powder coating off.

I'm going to pick up some soft 8's with 4" BS to try and fix my problem, might be the way to fix yours.

Are yours rubbing in exactly the same place. I know that the 3.5s are supposed to rub where my gen3s did. That was on the tube part of the arm when making tight turns.

Yep, on the rear tube, both sides of the KJ.

501 wrote:

Yep, on the rear tube, both sides of the KJ.

So it rubs on the tube and on the nose of the flat plate, or just on the tube? Marlon said he had never heard of this before. I know running the 255/70 tire size on stock rims puts me into a very small group of people.

As of right now, I am thinking of buying new tires in 245/75 size, but I want to make sure that will solve the problem before dropping that kind of cash. I am in need of new tires, but had planned on saving a few months to get them. The other option I am weighing is getting some 1.25 inch wheel spacer/adapters.

What brand of tires are you running jg45? It looks like it has a huge lip.

have you had it aligned since you installed them? Just wondering
also I hope you have some grease in them boots now :wink:

mine with 265-75-16s on Moabs ( 16X8 5 inch backspacing)

tommudd wrote:

have you had it aligned since you installed them? Just wondering
also I hope you have some grease in them boots now :wink:

mine with 265-75-16s on Moabs ( 16X8 5 inch backspacing)

Had mine aligned not long after you installed the arms Tom, and yep, there's grease in them boots!

Have not had it aligned yet since I am afraid I'd rub through a sidewall on the way to the alignment shop. I gave each arm 3 shots of moly before putting the wheels on.

sorry was pointing that remark at the OP!

I know what you did Daryl! Didn't know you were having problems with the arms

jg45 wrote:

Have not had it aligned yet since I am afraid I'd rub through a sidewall on the way to the alignment shop. I gave each arm 3 shots of moly before putting the wheels on.

an alignment will stand the tires up some, may not help a lot but that may be part of the problem right there.
with the new arms you'll be pulling the bottom of the tire back in some

Author:	jg45 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Problem with Al's Arms (Tire Rubbing Arm)
I just replaced my Gen 3 arms with the new 4.5 Arms after one of the Gen 3 broke. Now I am having an issue of the tire rubbing the arm just above where the arm connects to the knuckle. I am running 255/70/16 tires on the factory rims. Anyone else had this issue? Any suggestions other than grinding the arms down or running wheel spacers? Is anyone running 245/75/16 on stock wheels with a Frankenlift and JBA GEN 4.5 control arms? Here is a picture of the problem.

Author:	ridenby [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:42 pm ]
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jg45 wrote: I just replaced my Gen 3 arms with the new 4.5 Arms after one of the Gen 3 broke. Now I am having an issue of the tire rubbing the arm just above where the arm connects to the knuckle. I am running 255/70/16 tires on the factory rims. Anyone else had this issue? Any suggestions other than grinding the arms down or running wheel spacers? Is anyone running 245/75/16 on stock wheels with a Frankenlift and JBA GEN 4.5 control arms? Here is a picture of the problem. I run franky,al's arms,245/75/16,stock steel wheels, no rubbing on a-arm.

Author:	501 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:04 pm ]
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I have the 3.5's and my 255/70/16's rub on the arm part using stock rims. I just noticed it like a week ago, so my tires have rubbed the powder coating off. I'm going to pick up some soft 8's with 4" BS to try and fix my problem, might be the way to fix yours.

Author:	04jeepkj [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:24 pm ]
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I am running 265/75/R16's stock rims with the gen 4.5 A Arms and mine still have some clearance. I think it looks like you are missing the spacer?. . .

Author:	jg45 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:33 pm ]
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04jeepkj wrote: I am running 265/75/R16's stock rims with the gen 4.5 A Arms and mine still have some clearance. I think it looks like you are missing the spacer?. . . Marlon said that there were two different ball joints in these 4.5s. Maybe that is why there is no spacer. I am surprised the 265s don't rub unless it is because the widest section of the tire is above the arm contact point in my picture.

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Author:	jg45 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:36 pm ]
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501 wrote: I have the 3.5's and my 255/701/16's rub on the arm part using stock rims. I just noticed it like a week ago, so my tires have rubbed the powder coating off. I'm going to pick up some soft 8's with 4" BS to try and fix my problem, might be the way to fix yours. Are yours rubbing in exactly the same place. I know that the 3.5s are supposed to rub where my gen3s did. That was on the tube part of the arm when making tight turns.

Author:	501 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:41 pm ]
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jg45 wrote: 501 wrote: I have the 3.5's and my 255/70/16's rub on the arm part using stock rims. I just noticed it like a week ago, so my tires have rubbed the powder coating off. I'm going to pick up some soft 8's with 4" BS to try and fix my problem, might be the way to fix yours. Are yours rubbing in exactly the same place. I know that the 3.5s are supposed to rub where my gen3s did. That was on the tube part of the arm when making tight turns. Yep, on the rear tube, both sides of the KJ.

Author:	04jeepkj [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:58 pm ]
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Got plenty of clearance with the 265/75/R16s

Author:	jg45 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:06 pm ]
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Interesting that your half shaft seems to be almost straight. Mine has a pretty good downslope to it. As my suspension compresses up, I get a bit more clearance, but nothing like is pictured.

Author:	jg45 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:24 pm ]
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501 wrote: Yep, on the rear tube, both sides of the KJ. So it rubs on the tube and on the nose of the flat plate, or just on the tube? Marlon said he had never heard of this before. I know running the 255/70 tire size on stock rims puts me into a very small group of people. As of right now, I am thinking of buying new tires in 245/75 size, but I want to make sure that will solve the problem before dropping that kind of cash. I am in need of new tires, but had planned on saving a few months to get them. The other option I am weighing is getting some 1.25 inch wheel spacer/adapters.

Author:	Jeepjeepster [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:28 pm ]
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What brand of tires are you running jg45? It looks like it has a huge lip.

Author:	501 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:30 pm ]
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jg45 wrote: 501 wrote: Yep, on the rear tube, both sides of the KJ. So it rubs on the tube and on the nose of the flat plate, or just on the tube? Marlon said he had never heard of this before. I know running the 255/70 tire size on stock rims puts me into a very small group of people. As of right now, I am thinking of buying new tires in 245/75 size, but I want to make sure that will solve the problem before dropping that kind of cash. I am in need of new tires, but had planned on saving a few months to get them. The other option I am weighing is getting some 1.25 inch wheel spacer/adapters. Just on the tube. Since the Soft 8's cost less than tires, and I didn't like the idea of 20 extra lug nuts to deal with, I plan on going with the soft 8's, and the 4" backspacing will push my tires out around 1.5"

Author:	jg45 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:39 pm ]
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Jeepjeepster wrote: What brand of tires are you running jg45? It looks like it has a huge lip. They are General Grabber AT2 in 255/70/16.

Author:	tommudd [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:42 pm ]
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have you had it aligned since you installed them? Just wondering also I hope you have some grease in them boots now mine with 265-75-16s on Moabs ( 16X8 5 inch backspacing)

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Author:	501 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:50 pm ]
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tommudd wrote: have you had it aligned since you installed them? Just wondering also I hope you have some grease in them boots now mine with 265-75-16s on Moabs ( 16X8 5 inch backspacing) Had mine aligned not long after you installed the arms Tom, and yep, there's grease in them boots!

Author:	jg45 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:54 pm ]
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Have not had it aligned yet since I am afraid I'd rub through a sidewall on the way to the alignment shop. I gave each arm 3 shots of moly before putting the wheels on.

Author:	tommudd [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:55 pm ]
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501 wrote: tommudd wrote: have you had it aligned since you installed them? Just wondering also I hope you have some grease in them boots now mine with 265-75-16s on Moabs ( 16X8 5 inch backspacing) Had mine aligned not long after you installed the arms Tom, and yep, there's grease in them boots! sorry was pointing that remark at the OP! I know what you did Daryl! Didn't know you were having problems with the arms

Author:	tommudd [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:56 pm ]
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jg45 wrote: Have not had it aligned yet since I am afraid I'd rub through a sidewall on the way to the alignment shop. I gave each arm 3 shots of moly before putting the wheels on. an alignment will stand the tires up some, may not help a lot but that may be part of the problem right there. with the new arms you'll be pulling the bottom of the tire back in some

Author:	501 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:57 pm ]
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tommudd wrote: sorry was pointing that remark at the OP! I know what you did Daryl! Didn't know you were having problems with the arms Just noticed it last weekend while you were out of town and LOST was down.

Author:	jg45 [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:47 am ]
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tommudd wrote: jg45 wrote: Have not had it aligned yet since I am afraid I'd rub through a sidewall on the way to the alignment shop. I gave each arm 3 shots of moly before putting the wheels on. an alignment will stand the tires up some, may not help a lot but that may be part of the problem right there. with the new arms you'll be pulling the bottom of the tire back in some While both sides rub, the passenger side is worse. It was the side that the gen 3 arm broke and had been replaced with an oem arm and aligned. Looks like the gen 4.5 pushed the top of the wheel out already. It would appear that an alignment would need to push the bottom of the wheel out to get correct camber. SO I am seriously the only one that has this issue? Anyone got pictures of 245/75/16 on oem wheels (no spacers) with the 4.5 arms and a lift?