Jeep and the Detroit autoshow

jeeplikens · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:05 pm

Well, looks like Jeep is about to go "offroad" (going where jeep tried with it's 2wd versions (remember the jeepster wagon?).. now it's the crossover)with it's new brands. But I have to give them some credit with trying to hold on to the "off road" perception.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060109/AUTO04/601090410/1364

the1jferg · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:10 pm

Are you saying a jeep 4x2 won't go off road??? :lol:

I'll put a locked 4x2 against any 4x4 except for rock crawling or a pulling contest.

A front wheel drive 4x2 will go better in most conditions alone over a rear wheel version.

Ed · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:44 pm

Good grief, that's hideous!

Can we just pretend that's not a Jeep?

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Are you saying a jeep 4x2 won't go off road???

Sure, they'll go off road. They just won't get back on again!
:lol:

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I'll put a locked 4x2 against any 4x4 except for rock crawling or a pulling contest.

Except that 4x2's don't have part-time 4 hi (obviously) or low range, so as long as you avoid bog-holes requiring front traction to climb out of and trails with steep hills on them you'd be fine.

the1jferg · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:50 pm

I've been up the worst of (steep) muddy hills going foward in mine.

See, all those extras mean more to think about, just hit the gas and go. Once the weight shifts to the back when you hit the hill, you'd be suprised how easy it will climb.

I also don't hit the terrain at idle speed and I only stop for lunch. I usually hit a bog hole so hard its empty when I'm through it.

The only advantage a 4x4 has in that terrain (to me) is to help you stay straight so you dont get sideways and tumble down hill. :lol:

auggy · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:12 pm

Ed wrote:

Good grief, that's hideous!
[img]http://www.green-eyed-monster.com/"LOST"/bilde.jpeg[/img]

Can we just pretend that's not a Jeep?

Quote:

Are you saying a jeep 4x2 won't go off road???

Sure, they'll go off road. They just won't get back on again!
:lol:

Quote:

I'll put a locked 4x2 against any 4x4 except for rock crawling or a pulling contest.

Except that 4x2's don't have part-time 4 hi (obviously) or low range, so as long as you avoid bog-holes requiring front traction to climb out of and trails with steep hills on them you'd be fine.

They took a liberty, added a hideous body kit and the roofline of a nissian. :vomit:

the1jferg · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:19 pm

My bad fella's. The link I clicked had a wrangler crashing through a window?

I totally missed the PT cruiser with the Jeep grill

Ed · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:27 pm

Yeah that new Wrangler is pretty sweet. I'm afraid I was distracted by the horrific new Compass though.

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I've been up the worst of (steep) muddy hills going foward in mine.

As a general rule of thumb. If you can make it in two-wheel-drive, you need to find a more challenging trail!

So as not to get too off topic in this thread I've put some of our club photos here;
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=44436#44436
If you can get a 4x2 through that lot I'd be mighty impressed.

And if you can get that Compass thing through then I'd happily rip the 4x4 system out of my KJ and eat it.
:lol:

ltwgs · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:39 pm

Lasorda crashing through the window at Cobo was cool, except for the little ramp preset for his ease through the "obstacle." Kinda detracted from the Rubi's image...

spoonplugger1 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:41 pm

Jeep makes a Pontiac Aztec.

Neatus · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:51 pm

Wow, the Compass looks nothing like the concept. Barf, barf, barf, nad barf again....front wheel drive....WTF over!

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:09 am

The funniest thing I saw before the announcement was this.

auggy · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:21 am

I want to see a video of the glass breakage/mountain

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:40 am

It is ugly as that woman from "Throw Momma from the Train." God rest her soul.

Liberator84 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:40 am

The wheels are to small.

I like the wrangler going through the window though. Thats awesome!

~JUD

Dutchy · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:43 am

[quote="Ed"]Good grief, that's hideous!
[img]http://www.green-eyed-monster.com/"LOST"/bilde.jpeg[/img]

Can we just pretend that's not a Jeep?

That thing looks as if a Liberty crashed into a Hyundai, brrrrrr that's realy ugly.

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:roll:

Edwin · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:51 am

the1jferg wrote:

Are you saying a jeep 4x2 won't go off road??? :lol:

I'll put a locked 4x2 against any 4x4 except for rock crawling or a pulling contest.

A front wheel drive 4x2 will go better in most conditions alone over a rear wheel version.

I'd like to see that :wink:

jeeplikens · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:55 am

the1jferg wrote:

Are you saying a jeep 4x2 won't go off road??? :lol:

I'll put a locked 4x2 against any 4x4 except for rock crawling or a pulling contest.

A front wheel drive 4x2 will go better in most conditions alone over a rear wheel version.

Well, considering a 2x4 Liberty has about as much ability on packed snow and ice as my kids little tikes wagon, I have to say yes. This based on my 27 months of driving my KJ in 2wd and 4wd in the above conditions. But, I agree a fwd Escape will out do a rwd Liberty in the same conditions.. (I'm sure this will open a can of worms) but I'm not here to debate 2wd vs 4wd. I've had my fwd minivan for 13 years. To the difference between having a 2wd "off road" branded Jeep vs a 4wd "off road" Jeep is finding a parking spot for the 2wd version at the trail head and hitching a ride with 4wd version.

the1jferg · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:16 am

Misfire

the1jferg · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:16 am

"Well, considering a 2x4 Liberty has about as much ability on packed snow and ice as my kids little tikes wagon"

Put some weight in the rear end bud or a few studs and you won't have as much of a problem.

a major percent of vehicle capability is knowing how to use what you got.

Move to TEXAS the most perfect Republic and snow won't be a constant issue.
:lol:

ManicMechanicJoe · **Posted:** Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:00 am

contrary to popular belief a 4x2 will go through anything a 4x4 will go through, you just need to hit it faster. A lot faster. :twisted:

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