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Author:  67Customs [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Adaptive One or NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic
I thought I was set on getting the NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic Pads, but I started doing a little more research on the Adaptive One pads.

Has anyone had any experience with these? My dad recently put them on his '04 Ram, NAPA guy suggested that those were the ones to go with, and they seem to work well, but I think it is to early to tell.

Is their inner/out pads thing a gimmick, or is it for real? Would you put them up against the Ultra Premiums, or just go with the Ultra Premiums?
Author:  STINGN [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adaptive One or NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic
Has your jeep been stopping well with out those fancy pads so far...I would just get oem replacements imo
Author:  67Customs [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adaptive One or NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic
STINGN wrote:
Has your jeep been stopping well with out those fancy pads so far...I would just get oem replacements imo

No, they warped my rotors. From what I read on here and on another KJ forum, the OEM pads tend to warp the OEM rotors. They also pulse when I get to lower speeds. As hard as I push my brakes sometimes, I'm looking to upgrade as well. I want pads and rotors that are going to last, not ones that are toast after 30k miles.

I'm not the type to ride my brakes or abuse them, but I do live in the mountains and I tow a camper or trailer fairly often. I've owned other vehicles with disk brakes and towed with some of them as well and I've never had brakes warp on me. The stock brakes on the KJ apparently can't handle it and I wouldn't really say that I am pushing it to hard.
Author:  audiboy86 [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adaptive One or NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic
For what you pay for the NAPA brakes you could get a nice set of EBC red stuff of green stuff 7000 series. They will stop alot better then the NAPA pads and i swear by NAPA parts. And if you really want some stopping power get a set of there slotted rotors to they won't warp i have had mine in pulling 3000+lb loads in 6% grades stopping without a problem.
Author:  LibertyCRD [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adaptive One or NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic
I have not used either of those pads.

Having said that, I have used C-Max ceramic pads from AutoZone and they were the WORST pads I have ever used. I hated them so bad that six months later I ripped them off the truck and took them back to the store and exchanged them for regular semi-metallic.

They dusted (which ceramic supposedly won't do), they had less stopping power (which is common with ceramics), they made the pedal feel spongy due to the backing on the pads, and they cost twice as much as regular pads.

F ceramic if you ask me.
Author:  67Customs [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adaptive One or NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic
audiboy86 wrote:
For what you pay for the NAPA brakes you could get a nice set of EBC red stuff of green stuff 7000 series. They will stop alot better then the NAPA pads and i swear by NAPA parts. And if you really want some stopping power get a set of there slotted rotors to they won't warp i have had mine in pulling 3000+lb loads in 6% grades stopping without a problem.

I've read that the EBC green stuff pads can be noisy and that the NAPA Ultra Premium Pads will be quiet and brake just as well. I started looking at EBC's stuff to start with.

I also have a thread out asking about sloted rotors and mud. I was looking at some slotted rottors, but I don't want them if they get caked with mud and mess with the pads.

LibertyCRD wrote:
I have not used either of those pads.

Having said that, I have used C-Max ceramic pads from AutoZone and they were the WORST pads I have ever used. I hated them so bad that six months later I ripped them off the truck and took them back to the store and exchanged them for regular semi-metallic.

They dusted (which ceramic supposedly won't do), they had less stopping power (which is common with ceramics), they made the pedal feel spongy due to the backing on the pads, and they cost twice as much as regular pads.

F ceramic if you ask me.

I wouldn't trust any pads from Auto Zone or Advance Auto. My dad uses them because they are cheap, but they are garbage. He changes them more than he should have to.

With that said, I've rode in other vehicles with good quality ceramic pads that performed very well. It is all about getting a quality set. I've read a lot of good about EBC and the NAPA Ultra Premiums, but I was wondering how the Adaptive Ones compared.
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adaptive One or NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic
The Adaptive One pads are awesome and blow away the Premium ceramic pads away(hence the high cost),wish they made them for my brake setup(need front pads for a '75 K10).Probably the best pads on the market and I've used alot of different pads(EBC is way overrated,I know I have them on right now and will be swapped out real quick) so I've had alot of experience with many brands.make sure you use the Napa Premium rotors with the Adaptive Pads,they are made to work together.
Author:  67Customs [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adaptive One or NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic
tjkj2002 wrote:
The Adaptive One pads are awesome and blow away the Premium ceramic pads away(hence the high cost),wish they made them for my brake setup(need front pads for a '75 K10).Probably the best pads on the market and I've used alot of different pads(EBC is way overrated,I know I have them on right now and will be swapped out real quick) so I've had alot of experience with many brands.make sure you use the Napa Premium rotors with the Adaptive Pads,they are made to work together.

Very good to know. Thanks for chiming in.

For the Liberty though, the Adaptive on Pads are $6-$8 cheaper per set than the Premium pads on the NAPA website. Even better.

I actually have another thread asking about the NAPA Ultra Premium rotors vs. their Hi-Perf rotors. I was going to purchase one of the two. The Hi-Perf ones have slotts in them, and I think the consensus is that slotts and mud don't mix.

So, I am pretty much set on the Ultra Premium rotors and the Adaptive One pads.

I also hear you on the troubles of finding the correct replacement parts for a vehicle that is made out of multiple vehicles. While mine isn't as extreme as yours, my '67 Mustang has the motor of a '85 Mustang(warmed over), the trans of a '67, the rear axle and driveshaft of a '65 Hi-Po, front spindles of a Granada and a few aftermarket parts. I hate finding the correct parts to fix things sometimes.
Author:  Cobalt-60 [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adaptive One or NAPA Ultra Premium - Ceramic
Based on the recommendations here, I have a set of Ultra Premium rotors and Adaptive One pads sitting in the back of the Liberty right now that we are going to put on tomorrow.

When I went to order them from my local NAPA store, one of the guys there (a Toyota pick-up off-road enthusiast) said for our applications that should be perfect, but he did say that he had the same combination on his large (3/4-ton, maybe?) pick-up that he towed his trailer and trail-rig (with trailer break controller, et al), and said that unloaded it was fine, however, fully loaded the stopping distance was subpar. But he also said that we would never (based on the 5,000 lbs towing weight spec of the KJ) be towing so much that it would cause that problem...

Remember, if you don't have any other discount arrangement set up, you get a 7% discount with NAPA for being a AAA member... :)
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