620 Pounds In Back Of KJ

Fulltimer · **Posted:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:02 am

I went to Home Depot today and picked up 20 landscape timbers. According to their web site they weight 31 pounds each. Total = 620 pounds. I took a measurement from the ground to the bottom of the wheel well above the tire: 34.25" with the wood and 36" empty. So it pushed down the rear end 1.75". Not to bad! Does that sound like the right amount of sag? Seems like a pretty good test of the lift on it.

Terry

liquidxit2 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:24 pm

I cannot comment on the sag, but I can say this is one of the reasons why I love my liberty. Its a true hauler for its size.

Vranes17 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:08 pm

Quote:

Its a true hauler for its size.
I cannot comment on the sag, but I can say this is one of the reasons why I love my liberty. Its a true hauler for its size.

yeah but how dangerous/annoying is it driving with a tailgate that swings out instead of up?

I cant stand it, even going down a street or two, I hate doing it

Vranes17 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:27 pm

well while we are on the weight subject this question came to my mind, for people who weigh an excessive amount and are able to drive; do they have a stiffer suspension on one side usually specially done for them or..just always wondered how that would effect the life of the spring and if it wears on the suspension/steering at all

Fulltimer · **Posted:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:43 pm

Vranes17 wrote:

Quote:

Its a true hauler for its size.
I cannot comment on the sag, but I can say this is one of the reasons why I love my liberty. Its a true hauler for its size.

yeah but how dangerous/annoying is it driving with a tailgate that swings out instead of up?

I cant stand it, even going down a street or two, I hate doing it

The tail gate never moved and the tire didn't stick out any more than the side of the Jeep. It was held tight to the wood.

Terry

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:50 pm

so to speak

Fulltimer · **Posted:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:00 pm

JeepinJarhead03 wrote:

so to speak

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JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm

Fulltimer wrote:

Vranes17 wrote:

Quote:

Its a true hauler for its size.
I cannot comment on the sag, but I can say this is one of the reasons why I love my liberty. Its a true hauler for its size.

yeah but how dangerous/annoying is it driving with a tailgate that swings out instead of up?

I cant stand it, even going down a street or two, I hate doing it

The tail gate never moved and the tire didn't stick out any more than the side of the Jeep. It was held tight to the wood.

Terry

sorry, that's totally "so to speak" , it's the other side of "that's what she said" which is more like that's what he said .. but i've always heard it used as "so to speak"

lakee911 · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:03 pm **Posts:** 9

Vranes17 wrote:

Quote:

Its a true hauler for its size.
I cannot comment on the sag, but I can say this is one of the reasons why I love my liberty. Its a true hauler for its size.

yeah but how dangerous/annoying is it driving with a tailgate that swings out instead of up?

I cant stand it, even going down a street or two, I hate doing it

That's one thing that I really hate about my jeep. I've been wanting to either find an easy way to remove the door or fabricate (fabrigate? :ROTFL:

) something to prop it open so it won't move when opened. I had someone back up the jeep with it open once and it swung out and whacked a telephone pole. :dizzy:

Fortunately it hit the wheel and didn't do any damage.

I've had 1,100 LB of shingles in the back of mine. I think that's over the limit, but I can't remember. Add 200LB of me and that's a lot of weight. I noticed that the jeep sagged down signifigantly after the first few hundred pounds and then it settled less for the remainder. I remember thinking, 'at this rate the back wheels will be inside the jeep,' but it didn't happn. I still had some suspension travel on the way home, but I noticed that I had greater stopping distance, acceleration suffered and I'm sure gas mileage did too, but it was a short trip. Got the job done.

MidnightLiberty · **Joined:** Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:42 pm **Posts:** 270

lakee911 wrote:

I've had 1,100 LB of shingles in the back of mine. I think that's over the limit, but I can't remember. Add 200LB of me and that's a lot of weight.

Payload capacity is 1150 stock. Add some OME HD springs and it goes up. Just keep in mind you still shouldn't exceed the GVWR of 5650 lbs.

SweepnChoke · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:14 pm

I have hauled many different things with the Liberty and have been pretty happy with it's abilty. However I have never done so with the tailgate swung open, I always open the tailgate window, leave the tailgate closed and feed my lumber through the window. I have a big pool noodle with a slit in which I put over the top of the tailgate it to keep the lumber from damaging the rubber at the top of the tailgate.

My concern with driving while the tailgate is open wouldn't be the tailgate swinging around, but rather the downward force on the tailgate hinges while bouncing around on the drive home.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:15 pm

Get some air bags and you'll never need to worry about the extra weight again. It'll handle much better also.

Vranes17 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:56 pm

SweepnChoke wrote:

My concern with driving while the tailgate is open wouldn't be the tailgate swinging around, but rather the downward force on the tailgate hinges while bouncing around on the drive home.

Thats another reason I dont like doing that.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:14 pm

I put 2000 pounds in the back of my XJ once. Thank gawd for air shocks.

Also, I dunno what a Dana 60 weighs, but I put one of those back there too.

TAHOE · **Posted:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:30 am

Jeepjeepster wrote:

Get some air bags and you'll never need to worry about the extra weight again. It'll handle much better also.

That's what I have on the Tahoe for the heavy loads like hauling cars on trailers, etc. makes a world of difference. Mine are 1500 or 2000# bags, not that I would ever need that much, 60-80# of air makes it just right. My wife's stock Libby drops with almost now weight in back.

KeswickDave · **Posted:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:24 pm

20 bags of horse bedding pellets at 40 lbs each... 800 lbs, last week. That's about the most I've put inside at once.

Saw someone had 10 "railway ties", 6x8" x 10' long on FreeCycle recently... I really wanted them but wasn't sure about hanging them out the back of the Jeep and my trailer is only 6' long.

Someone else snapped'em up anyways

I too love the hauling capacity of the Liberty, it makes a great little hobby-farm truck.

Now if my dad decides to sell me his 2000 Ranger, I may have to add that to the stable

KeswickDave · **Posted:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:46 pm

yellocoyote wrote:

I really liked my '97 Ranger. It was a solid truck. If it's been taken care of, I would definitely take advantage of that opportunity!

Yeah, if only it was 4x4... sigh. I'll have to keep the Liberty to pull the Ranger out of the mud

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