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| Author: | 2006KJSPORT4x4 [ Tue May 16, 2006 9:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 2005 4x4 KJ questions **PICS OF 2006*** |
I'm looking at a used 2005 4x4 Renegade that already has 24K miles on it. Has anyone that has a 2005 experienced those lovely LBJ troubles that I see that all the previous years have endured? I know my 2005 KJ RME never seemed to have an issue and I had nearly 12K on it. Just looking for some thoughts. OR has anyone seemed to have had any issues with their 2005 4x4 KJs in general??? Here is the one in question: 
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| Author: | Se7enLC [ Tue May 16, 2006 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2005 4x4 KJ questions (trying to get a used KJ) |
RockyMtEditionKJ wrote: I'm looking at a used 2005 4x4 Renegade that already has 24K miles on it. Has anyone that has a 2005 experienced those lovely LBJ troubles that I see that all the previous years have endured? I know my 2005 KJ RME never seemed to have an issue and I had nearly 12K on it. Just looking for some thoughts. OR has anyone seemed to have had any issues with their 2005 4x4 KJs in general???
My 2005 Renegade has just over 20k miles on it (already...wow...I got it with < 10 miles on it last february). 2005 is a great year. You already know the flat hood that changes the way people look at the liberty. Now you get to see the command-trac 4x4, too! You'll love it! Also, the plastic bumper and fenders are a godsend. I laugh at all the other new cars my friends get when they get dinged up in the parking lot. Plastic doesn't show a ding! Is it a 6-speed or an auto? I see rock-rails, does that mean it has skids and a trac-loc, too? You'll love it! |
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| Author: | pixeldzn [ Tue May 16, 2006 9:56 pm ] |
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I have that exact same KJ minus the light bar. I bought it brand new and I have just under 20K on it. I haven't had any problems up un til now. My LBJs look good, as do my CV angles with the frankenlift. |
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| Author: | KJ Willy [ Tue May 16, 2006 9:57 pm ] |
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I have a 2005 with rusty's lift on for 8500 miles 22400 total. I have not had any issues yet. Knocking on wood. |
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| Author: | 2006KJSPORT4x4 [ Tue May 16, 2006 10:05 pm ] |
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It's an automatic. I see the rock rails too, I haven't actually looked at it in the flesh (or metal rather) because I just found it yesterday on-line when I started looking for a new one in my area. But my thinking is it should have the skid plates unless the guy was smart enough to take them off and sell them or something. I had e-mailed the dealer today if it was still available (for sale at a Subaru dealership actually) and they said it was but that the light covers for the light bar are not with the car, i had asked if they had them since they weren't on in the picture. I jsut hope I can convince my parents to help me invest on it.... 
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| Author: | pixeldzn [ Tue May 16, 2006 10:14 pm ] |
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RockyMtEditionKJ wrote: It's an automatic.
I see the rock rails too, I haven't actually looked at it in the flesh (or metal rather) because I just found it yesterday on-line when I started looking for a new one in my area. But my thinking is it should have the skid plates unless the guy was smart enough to take them off and sell them or something. I had e-mailed the dealer today if it was still available (for sale at a Subaru dealership actually) and they said it was but that the light covers for the light bar are not with the car, i had asked if they had them since they weren't on in the picture. I jsut hope I can convince my parents to help me invest on it.... Those skids aren't guaranteed. Mine did not include them, and I wasn't knowledgeable enough at the time to know I would want or need them. |
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| Author: | SKIDOG [ Tue May 16, 2006 10:24 pm ] |
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I've had mine since Aug last year ,19k and not a single problem and don't expect any either.Installing Frankenlift this weekend with Mutt... |
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| Author: | shadow [ Tue May 16, 2006 11:04 pm ] |
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RockyMtEditionKJ, That is one sexy KJ... mind you I am a little biased since that is almost the exact same one i have... 
Mine is an 2006 with 6 speed and a sunroof but on the outside it pretty much looks the same... Definitely check for the skid plates... What are they asking for it? Buy it then come up to Ontario and you me and zeero can go wheelin in a dark khaki renegade train! heh heh good luck! |
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| Author: | Guyute1210 [ Wed May 17, 2006 8:45 am ] |
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Looks like mine...Mine did come with the Off-Road Package, so it had skids and the Rock Rails. Does it have a sunroof too? |
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| Author: | 2006KJSPORT4x4 [ Wed May 17, 2006 8:53 am ] |
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It doesn't say in the vehicle description that it does so I am assuming not. It's going for $19,900 at this Subaru dealership. I just noticed that it seems to have taillight guards on it too. Is that standard or part of some package that the Renegade comes with? |
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| Author: | fish eye [ Wed May 17, 2006 8:57 am ] |
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As I understand it, all the Renegades have those stock rock 'tubes'. They will be sufficient if you do light wheeling, but anything more intense, and you'll want to upgrade to some real rock sliders. ( <Read I bent those things. ) Also, having full skids doesn't indicate a Trac-Loc. I have full skids from the factory, and no Trac-Loc. Might not be a bad idea to put some money down to hold it while you get the VIN. Heck call them and ask for the VIN. Then, contact your Jeep dealer and get a vehicle report on it. The could probably fax it to you too. Then you'll have a better idea of what you are buying. Did anyone ask what they are asking for it? I don't remember seeing it. Some dealers offer up some sweet NEW Renegades on eBay for real cheap... Makes me wish I looked there first... **edit - Just saw the price tag. Not a bad deal, but you can get an 06 for only a few thousand more with minimal miles. Just a thought, not sure what kind of budget you are working with. Good Luck. 
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| Author: | Se7enLC [ Wed May 17, 2006 9:08 am ] |
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RockyMtEditionKJ wrote: It doesn't say in the vehicle description that it does so I am assuming not.
It's going for $19,900 at this Subaru dealership. I just noticed that it seems to have taillight guards on it too. Is that standard or part of some package that the Renegade comes with? According to the photocopy I have of the dealership blue book, Off Road Group includes: Trac-Lok Power Steering Cooler Heavy Duty Engine Cooling P235/70R16 AT tires Front Suspension Skid Transmission Skid "Skid Plate Group" Fuel Tank Skid Transfer Case Skid Tow Hooks There are two packages for the Renegade in 2005, The D and the X: D has the following (X doesn't): - Roof Mounted Light Bar - Power Driver Seat - Skid Plates - Tail Lamp Guards These are, of course, options that can be added to the D package. The taillamp guards are only listed as part of the D package, however, I don't see them as an available option for the X at all. That would imply that if you have the taillamp guards that you also have the skids. Another thing I can tell you is that you do not have heated seats. It could still have the luxury package, sunroof, etc, as those are separate options that may/may not be included. |
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| Author: | zeero [ Wed May 17, 2006 9:49 am ] |
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shadow wrote: Buy it then come up to Ontario and you me and zeero can go wheelin in a dark khaki renegade train! heh heh
good luck! Thats right...  The Renny Train! 
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| Author: | PBrug [ Wed May 17, 2006 10:58 am ] |
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Se7enLC wrote: RockyMtEditionKJ wrote: It doesn't say in the vehicle description that it does so I am assuming not. It's going for $19,900 at this Subaru dealership. I just noticed that it seems to have taillight guards on it too. Is that standard or part of some package that the Renegade comes with? According to the photocopy I have of the dealership blue book, Off Road Group includes: Trac-Lok Power Steering Cooler Heavy Duty Engine Cooling P235/70R16 AT tires Front Suspension Skid Transmission Skid "Skid Plate Group" Fuel Tank Skid Transfer Case Skid Tow Hooks From the looks of the pic (No SR-A Tires) I'd say it doesn't have the Off Road Group, unless they can be switched for the ST's. |
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| Author: | Se7enLC [ Wed May 17, 2006 11:45 am ] |
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PBrug wrote: From the looks of the pic (No SR-A Tires) I'd say it doesn't have the Off Road Group, unless they can be switched for the ST's.
Good spot. I agree, looks like no offroad group. Also, it's hard to tell, but I don't think I can see front tow hooks. |
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| Author: | Guyute1210 [ Wed May 17, 2006 11:58 am ] |
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Se7enLC wrote: PBrug wrote: From the looks of the pic (No SR-A Tires) I'd say it doesn't have the Off Road Group, unless they can be switched for the ST's. Good spot. I agree, looks like no offroad group. Also, it's hard to tell, but I don't think I can see front tow hooks. There is definitely no tow hooks on that KJ. |
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| Author: | fish eye [ Wed May 17, 2006 3:59 pm ] |
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Guyute1210 wrote: Se7enLC wrote: PBrug wrote: From the looks of the pic (No SR-A Tires) I'd say it doesn't have the Off Road Group, unless they can be switched for the ST's. Good spot. I agree, looks like no offroad group. Also, it's hard to tell, but I don't think I can see front tow hooks. There is definitely no tow hooks on that KJ. I would say that it is the 'D' package. That's the exact same set up that I have, except I have front tow hooks from the factory. |
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| Author: | 2006KJSPORT4x4 [ Wed May 17, 2006 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | According to DC |
This is what that particular Libby has on it (or should at least): Dear Scott, Thank you for your recent email to DaimlerChrysler Motors. According to our records, this vehicle was equipped from the factory with the following: B5J3 Cloth High-Back Bucket Seats ADLP Skid Plate Group AHMS Convenience Group I AJPS Power Convenience Group APAS Monotone Paint A90P 3.7L Eng (EKG)/4Spd A/T 42RLE (DG6) BABS 160 Amp Alternator BC2S 600 Amp Maintenance Free Battery BRES 4-Wheel Disc Brakes CF5S Rear 65/35 Folding Split Seat CGUS Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready CG3S Advanced Multistage Front Air Bags** CKDS Floor Carpet CKNS Cargo Compartment Carpet CKTS Cargo Tie Down Loops CK3S Plastic Swing Gate Trim Panel CLES Front & Rear Floor Mats CLHP Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net CSRS Passenger Assist Handles CSWS Driver Assist Handle CTLS Base Door Trim Panel CUFS Full Length Floor Console DGBS All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions DG6 4-Spd. Automatic 42RLE Transmission DHAP Lock-Up Torque Converter DHNP Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System DJJS Dana 30/186MM Front Axle DMEP 3.73 Axle Ratio DRAS Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle EKG 3.7L V6 Engine GBBS Tinted Windshield Glass GCBS Front Door Tinted Glass GEGS Deep Tint Sunscreen Glass GEKS Flipper Swing Gate Glass GFAS Rear Window Defroster GNAS Rear View Day/Night Mirror GNCP Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors GT9S Power Mirrors, Fold-Away GVBC All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors GXMP Remote Keyless Entry GXXP Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System HAAS Air Conditioning I57S Route 57 - CSX & NS, Ridgefield, NJ JAYS Instrument Cluster w/Tach JCBS 120 MPH Primary Speedometer JHAS Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers JHBS Rear Window Wiper/Washer JJBS Dual Note Electric Horns JJJS 12V Auxiliary Power Outlet JJMP Rear Power Outlet JKYS Power Accessory Delay JPHP Speed Sensitive Power Locks JPSP Power 6-Way Driver Seat JPYS Pwr Windows, Drvr & Frt Pass 1-Touch K1ES STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR K8ES *** DESCRIPTION NOT AVAILABLE *** K9AS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING COLOR LABS Tire Pressure Monitoring Warning LP LACP Illuminated Entry LBBP Courtesy Lamps LCDP Map/Dome Reading Lamps LDBP Cargo Compartment Lamp LHDS Headlamp Off Time Delay LMAS Halogen Headlamps LNJS Fog Lamps LNSP Roof Mounted Light Bar LPSS CHMSL Lamp LSES Enhanced Accident Response System MDAS Front License Plate Bracket MFKS Body Color Grille MLSS Accent Color Fascias MT2S Trail Rated Badge MVCS Jeep Badge MVDS 4X4 Badge MWZS Rugged Side Roof Rails MXGP Tail Lamp Guard MZLP 3.7L Badge MZ2S Renegade Badge NAS 50 State Emissions NB5P Federal Tier 2, Bin 5 Emissions NFPS 20.5 Gallon Fuel Tank NHMS Speed Control PJT Dk. Khaki Pearl Coat QJTS Dk. Khaki Pearl Coat RAAC All Radio Equipped Vehicles RBKS AM/FM Compact Disc Radio w/Chgr Ctrl RCGS 6 Speakers RDDS Fixed Long Mast Antenna SBAS Power Rack and Pinion Steering SCGS Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel SDAS Normal Duty Suspension SUAS Tilt Steering Column TBBS Full Size Spare Tire TBRS Outside Tire Carrier TR7S P225/75R16 OWL All Season Tires TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires WDUS 16X7.0 Aluminum Wheels WKBS Matching Spare Wheel WLZC All Aluminum Wheels XCAS Occupant Classification System XEAS Tow Hooks XEEP Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield XEFP Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield XEUP Front Suspension Skid Plate SCGS Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel SDAS Normal Duty Suspension SUAS Tilt Steering Column TBBS Full Size Spare Tire TBRS Outside Tire Carrier TR7S P225/75R16 OWL All Season Tires TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires WDUS 16X7.0 Aluminum Wheels WKBS Matching Spare Wheel WLZC All Aluminum Wheels XCAS Occupant Classification System XEAS Tow Hooks XEEP Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield XEFP Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield XEUP Front Suspension Skid Plate XE9P Transmission Skid Plate XGGS Grocery Bag Hooks XJFS Tethered Fuel Filler Cap XPFS Protective Coating and Remover XVNP Basic Owner's Manual YAAS Build To U S Market Specifications YEP Manuf Statement of Origin YGEA 5 Additional Gallons of Gas ZCHP Spring - Left Front ZCVP Spring - Left Rear ZRGP Spring - Right Front ZRVP Spring - Right Rear Z5BS Payload Rating - 1800# |
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| Author: | nolakj [ Thu May 18, 2006 4:50 pm ] |
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Looks like a fine vehicle. Good luck with your search!!!
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| Author: | Dopefish [ Thu May 18, 2006 5:43 pm ] |
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Looks the same as mine... I bought it for 19k out the door. 10k miles, dealer through in Roof rack, RB1 nav, 6 disc changer (its in the back  ) and the 7/ 70 yr bumper to bumper coverage.
took me 2 days of 6 hrs a day.... The more time you spend, the more time they have invested, the better the deal! Kenny I have the skids and the |
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