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Author:  Universeman [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:42 am ]
Post subject:  Sway bar QDs/removal
Hi first post here, just bought my 06 CRD yesterday :-) and for my first question that I'm posting here on LOST I wanted to know what the story is about the sway bays on this thing cus on any other jeep they make QDs for the sway bar and I have searched and searched and found nothing on this subject. Your insights on this subject would be greatly apreaciated, my thinking on this is more inclined to remove the front as opposed to the rear as the rear swaybar would tend to flex the front more rather then just letting the rear do all the work. let the blood bath begin and thanks in advance for your advice
Author:  corwyyn [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sway bar QDs/removal
Universeman wrote:
I have searched and searched and found nothing on this subject.

First off, I will say that the search function on this site actually does work rather well. With that said here are a few links to threads that have ridden this horse into the ground and buried it:
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=458&highlight=swaybar

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=5460&highlight=swaybar

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=4155&highlight=swaybar

There is as yet no aftermarket product to disco the front sway bar. The general concensus is to remove the swaybar prior to wheeling, then install it again before you hit the road back home. Suffice it to say that the sway bar links the two sides of the suspension (either front or rear) and allows force to be transferred between them. This has the effect of keeping the body from rolling to the outside of the turn and keeps the tires on the inside of the turn on the ground. With the swaybar disco'ed and running at speed, if you had to make a sudden turn or swerve your front tires could potentially roll too far and cause a nightmare - the image I keep seeing in my head is a car that has been in an accident and the front wheels are flopped up and back like it just made a landing from 40-50ft. Imagine that happening at 65mph and you'll understand why people are reluctant to make suggestions on any mods to do this.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

BTW, which part of NM do you live in?
Author:  Universeman [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:57 am ]
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Thanks for schooling me on the search function and pointing me in the right direction for the info I was looking for, I'm a F-117/F-16 crew chief and I live in Alamogordo so there would be alot of good wheeling around here except they closed the forest due to the fire danger :( but I wont be doing any wheeling untill I get my jeep armored up any way, as for the sway bay I'll just remove it for off roading at the trail head.
Author:  corwyyn [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:34 pm ]
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Universeman wrote:
I'm a F-117/F-16 crew chief and I live in Alamogordo so there would be alot of good wheeling around here except they closed the forest due to the fire danger

Yeah, there is some great wheeling out there, especially over on the west side of the Organs. My family history is pretty well tied to southern NM; my father's family lived up in Elk (east of Mayhill), plus I have relatives in Alamogordo and went to college for a couple of years at NMSU over in Las Cruces. Enjoy your time there and thanks for your service to our country (wish we had a saluting smiley :? )
Author:  05kjrenny [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:10 pm ]
Post subject: 
thats so cool to fly on a f-117 and f-16, you must love it!!
Author:  Mutt [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:48 pm ]
Post subject: 
05kjrenny wrote:
thats so cool to fly on a f-117 and f-16, you must love it!!


Ummmmm..........he's a mechanic.

My brother was stationed at Holloman, twenty six years ago. He was an F-15 Crew Chief, now he's just a retired Chief.

I'm a transplanted Albuquerque boy myself.

Both of my swaybars are in the shed. If you don't try to drive it like a sports car you'll be fine.
Author:  4wdParakeet [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:02 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Chris,
We are waiting on a small tab to be produced that will help hold the swaybar out of the way. The QD's have always been done but the swaybar holder proved to be almost impossible to produce inexpensively. We didn't want to have to raise the price of a pair of KJ "Quicker Disconnects" above and beyond that of the rest of our QD line. What we came up with will hold the swaybar in a nuetral position that will not come in contact with the upper or lower a-arm during suspension travel.
Kind Regards,
Jim Nollette
JKS Manufacturing
308-762-6949
tech@jksmfg.com



This is the last response I have gotten from JKS regarding the quick discos. I found it's almost easier to just take the heavy piece of metal out and throw it to the side when wheeling though. It took me more time to pull it off than throw it back on cause I had to wiggle here dance on one foot here to get it to land in the correct location. But I could just be a mental midget though and have a tougher time than most :D If you find something though let us know.

Parakeet
Author:  jpzkj [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:15 pm ]
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The swaybar subject has been talked about alot around here and If you don't mind pulling the bar at the trailhead and putting back on before the ride home...that's pretty much the easiest / safest way to disco.

That being said...

I've run with and without the swaybar and I haven't come across a spot that I couldn't do with the swaybar on. (the rest of you may have...im not going to be beating that point at all).

Running disco'd on the road with an IFS vehicle and a SOLID axle vehicle is very different...be very careful in your KJ.


Good luck

8)
Author:  Universeman [ Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:56 pm ]
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As a matter of fact I went wheeling for the first time today in my new jeep in a dry gully behind Wal-Mart (no really). Now I have a lot of experience off road and this is my fourth jeep, what impressed me the most was how well the traction control works on this thing, my back right tire was about a foot off the ground at the angle I was climbing up and it just kept going and climbed right out of the ditch! Now past experiences tells me that I should not have been able to do this with out lockers and so on, so the fact that I was able to do this in a bone stock Liberty absolutely blows my mind and so now I'm re-thinking what I need as a bare minimum in order to go wheeling but I'm probably digressing way off my original post here except that I'm rethinking my concerns about the whole sway-bar thing as it seams jeep has really done there home work on this one so for now I'm just gonna leave well enough alone for now slap some armor on this puppy and call it good till tax return time :) btw I did get a ride in a F-16 once and as we were climbing vertically to 10k feet I looked over my shoulder and saw the ground/earth shrinking, rapidly, like being inside of a zoom lens. That'll change your perspective.
Author:  Universeman [ Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:17 am ]
Post subject:  See its not just a figment of my imagination
Figured out how to post picts, I'll take some behind Wal-Mart tomorrow :)
Image
P.S. note the dirt on the tires lol
Author:  corwyyn [ Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:12 am ]
Post subject: 
Universeman wrote:
As a matter of fact I went wheeling for the first time today in my new jeep in a dry gully behind Wal-Mart (no really).

Thats the one out by the intersection of 70 and 82, right? Checked it out on Google Earth and see a pretty good little romp area back there. BTW my aunt and uncle lived at 12th and Iowa in Alamogordo. Have fun with that KJ and try to get a little more dirt on it, OK?
Author:  lilmatty [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:38 pm ]
Post subject: 
4wdParakeet wrote:
Quote:
Chris,
We are waiting on a small tab to be produced that will help hold the swaybar out of the way. The QD's have always been done but the swaybar holder proved to be almost impossible to produce inexpensively. We didn't want to have to raise the price of a pair of KJ "Quicker Disconnects" above and beyond that of the rest of our QD line. What we came up with will hold the swaybar in a nuetral position that will not come in contact with the upper or lower a-arm during suspension travel.
Kind Regards,
Jim Nollette
JKS Manufacturing
308-762-6949
tech@jksmfg.com



This is the last response I have gotten from JKS regarding the quick discos. I found it's almost easier to just take the heavy piece of metal out and throw it to the side when wheeling though. It took me more time to pull it off than throw it back on cause I had to wiggle here dance on one foot here to get it to land in the correct location. But I could just be a mental midget though and have a tougher time than most :D If you find something though let us know.

Parakeet


Hey Parakeet: When was that last message from JKS? I'm wondering what scheme they finally came up with.
Author:  4wdParakeet [ Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:43 pm ]
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I emailed him the begining of may. A couple months before that I emailed him and he said that they where a couple months away. So who knows when.


Parakeet
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