I don't mind tipping at all. IF the service is good. If the service is bad they get 1 penny. A lot of times people will leave a good tip when the food is really good, but that has nothing to do with the service, unless it's cold.

Terry

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Mostly I think it is because the wait staff don't want to have to travel all over the floor to different tables when they can congregate everyone together like a herd of sheep Yeah that's one of my little peaves as well...


Head up or down? I was always told that the worst tip you can give a waiter/waitress is a face down penny (supposed to show what you think of their service). Except of course for the face down penny with the upside-down glass full of water on top of it on the table

As with most on the board 10 to 25 percent give or take, I understand that the waitress or waiter is not the cook so if the food takes a long time, depending on the rest of the service, it may be a forgivable act, except if the food is cold then the docking starts. Most of the time groups of 8 or more the establishment will put on a "mandatory" 18% gratuity...rubbish. I think the best thing the waitress can do with a party is pass on the gratuity and take the tip, usually ALOT more than 18%. I have only ever stiffed one person and they asked for it, literally, the waitress did not see the cash tip on the table and rudely asked for a tip, to which my reply was never pet a burning cat! Then I walked to the front with the bill, paid, and left. Never ask about a tip, Never.

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That's great pay, well I guess it's all swings and roundabouts hey.

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I have a buddy who when seated will lay out say 30 bucks in ones, when service starts to go bad he starts sticking money back in his pocket. He tells the waitress/waitor "This could be your tip, but if you screw up I take some or all of it back" We always or almost always get good service that way. Me I just tip from nothing for very bad to 20% or more for great service!

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whats the incentive for the waitress to do a good job if they get paid either way.... the incentive is to do a good job so they get the tip and have money when they go home... thats why resturants dont pay but 2.13 usd per hour. how does it work in austrailia... i was thinking about visiting in a few months. it would be nice to know???

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How does it work, well if you want to tip then do so if not don't. They are paid a wage, if they are no good you tell the manager and they will get in the crap, too much of that and they wont have a job. So as they get paid to do a job they must do it.

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15% to 18% for a sit down meal is standard and should be the starting block for tipping. Anything less due to performance is usually acceptable and servers know that. They only get paid 2.33 and hour minimum wage in our state so they work primarily for tips. Any tip given gets taxed out of the 2.33/hour wage, so many times a server will not get a paycheck or get one that is under $10. As far as sitting people in one area, most resaurants are divided into sections that servers are designated to, they run these like their own business and are responsible for all the money that comes into the establishment in their section. This is why (especially noticable when its slow) that they seat people in 1 or 2 sections, because they only have said sections open. These should be the best most areas and also the host or whomever is seating you, should always be flexible when seating.

My opinion: Anyone who doesn't leave a tip is cheap. If you cannot order the most expensive thing on the menu at the place you are at, you have no business being there. Don't go out to eat if you are too cheap to tip.

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I debated whether to weigh in on this topic or not. I have been a restaurant manager/owner for nearly 30 years now. I sincerely wish that we could roll back the clock and get rid of the whole tipping custom. But we can't. Most states pay a little over $2/hr to servers (which by the way is the PC term for someone that takes care of you at a restaurant. Some people find being called a waiter or waitress offensive). The minimum wage for tipped employees does not go up with the Federal minimum wage. The law is that if they make less than the current minimum wage (which is controlled by the state but cannot be lower than the Federal minimum) with their wages plus declared tips the employer must make up the difference. Therefore, when inflation rises the minimum expected tip usually does too. 10% is considered a poor tip in today's economy. I can tell you which segments of society are notoriously bad tippers (but I won't post it here ). There are some people that think if they compliment their server a lot they can skimp on the tip. This is known as a "verbal tipper". Don't be one of those. Restaurants assign their servers sections to improve service. Imagine how much harder it would be to keep up on everything if you had a table in each corner of the restaurant. The other thing that most people do not realize is that in almost all restaurants the servers need to pay "tipshare". This is a certain predetermined percentage of what they sell that they have to pay at the end of their shift and that money is given to the bartenders, bussers and other support staff. So if you "stiff" a server, they actually have to pay the restaurant for the privilege of serving you. If your food is late, its usually the kitchen's fault but the server takes the heat for it anyway. Is it so hard to be pleasant to someone that is taking care of you? People are so rude sometimes and then are surprised when they get crappy service. My biggest plea to all who read this is that if you have a special request, concern, complaint or compliment; talk to a manager. Be nice, don't raise your voice and be as flexible as you can. In my restaurants, if you are annoyed by a loud table and bring it to our attention we will move you to a quieter area. If your server is rude to you, I will give you a different one and the other server loses the tip for that table. If it happens on a regular basis, they are looking for another job. If there's a hair in your salad, your getting money off the check. If you yell at me, degrade me, belittle me, etc. all you're getting is an apology. I have some VERY picky regular guests in my restaurants and we make them happy every time because they clearly and kindly communicated to us what they like. Remember, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. There are plenty of bad servers out there (just like in any industry) so sometimes your going to get crappy service and the server doesn't deserve a good tip. It is actually more offensive to a server to leave a poor tip, than no tip. If you leave no tip, they just think you're a tight stupid, if you leave a poor tip, your message is conveyed more clearly. Look around the restaurant. Is the place packed and everyone bustling around? Don't expect to get as good of service at 7 o'clock on a Saturday night, as you would at 5 o'clock on a Tuesday. Lastly, as I end my diatribe, here is what I normally tip (remember that this is what I do for a living. You may think this is extreme, but I get fabulous service in the places that I frequent).

$5 is a minimum tip (we're talking full service restraurants here. Not Starbucks). If I just get a cup of coffee and pie, I leave $5. I still took up that table for an hour or more and the server shouldn't be penalized because I'm not eating a full meal.
If I get crappy service - 10%
Below average service - 15%
Average service - 20%
Above average - 22 to 25%
Great service - 25 to 30%

You really need to calculate the tip into the cost of the meal before you decide where to eat. Like I started out this post, I wish we could do away with the whole thing. It would certainly make my life easier. But we are stuck with the system that we inherited.

P.S. Watch the movie "Waiting". That stuff happens . . . Believe me.

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