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Don't know if this has been addressed yet or not, but in all honesty, I am too lazy and don't have the time to look at all 8 pages to find out ahahah...

They mention... cutting 3/8" off the CV joints?!

WTF!?!! I don't think you want to be doing that. Just to start, your warranty (if you have any) is GONE!!! ZERO, ZILCH! My wife is a warranty administrator for DC and she wouldn't even look at you next time you came in wth that. Second, there goes the srength and integrity of the joint. That is only the beginning. Don't do it!!

Stick with the 2.5" and do a lil' clevis lift or something. Do not waste your money!!!! Or, do and then waste a bunch more fixing everything out of your own pocket

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slikjr wrote:
Just to start, your warranty (if you have any) is GONE!!!

Some of us have been out of warranty for over 3 years. :D There's a certain amount of freedom in that, especially if your KJ is paid off. You can spend the monthly payments on fixing what you break.
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Second, there goes the srength and integrity of the joint.

Could you elaborate on that? I don't even understand what they mean by cutting the joints--I wish they'd put some pics on the site. Have you seen what they did? In what way does it weaken the joint?


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The CV Shave I believe means they shave the inside metal surface of the CV Shaft. This puts the end of the CV Shaft a bit deeper into the front diff arm. What this does is allow the CV Axle to travel farther when the suspension moves without popping out...

It really doesn't weaken the CVJoint itself. It still does not address CVJoint Angles with a lift but it would let the CV Axle travel a bit more.

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Here is what I got from Marlin when asked about the mod.

http://www.automedia.com/CV_Rehab/ccr20021101cv/1

Go to the exploded view 1/4 way down the page.

Look at item #9 the side facing you that the boot covers needs to be 3/8” shorter.

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FreeJeep wrote:
Here is what I got from Marlin when asked about the mod.

http://www.automedia.com/CV_Rehab/ccr20021101cv/1

Go to the exploded view 1/4 way down the page.

Look at item #9 the side facing you that the boot covers needs to be 3/8” shorter.

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ok, now for those of us who dont know whats going on (me), what does that do for us?

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well Jon its sort of a band aid approach to it, it will work, but yet its not replacing or upgrading what we have already.
kind of my view of the whole thing.....

and views on here are like belly buttons everyone has them and thats mine :roll:

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I'm thinking maybe the binding is due to contact between #9 and #6. If #9 is shorter, but the pivot point stays the same, the angle should be slightly greater before contact occurs between the two. See below.

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I'm no expert and would love to hear a better explaination.

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OK.. I had to measure the height of the KJ mirror and came out with a outstanding resultt of 47 7/8's and I'm running 235/75/16's which measure 29.8"'s (roughly).Now compared to the rest of the previous measured i think this OME lift really stacks up against the rest in the height department.My tires are also 2" 's samller then the 235/85/16's which would give me probably another 1" or so in height so i would be right around 48 7/8". Now my articulation may not be the same as this new " 4" " lift but for the majority of us on this board that extra $$$$ really wouldn't be benificial. My $0.02's!





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FreeJeep wrote:
I'm thinking maybe the binding is due to contact between #9 and #6. If #9 is shorter, but the pivot point stays the same, the angle should be slightly greater before contact occurs between the two. See below.

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I'm no expert and would love to hear a better explaination.

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Thats pretty much it Don or thats how I see it as well.
And Josh I am with you we are all almost there anyways, now if I lived say out west where there is more opportunity to wheel all the time and the lift let me aticulate a little more then maybe but right now????

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I do live "out west." My advice: get a locker (or 2) and call it a day.

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For those who have invested in Lifting already this may not be for you, for example I have $3,900.00 invested already in my lift and tires because I first invested in a 2" then went to 4".
From stock however this is how the measurement goes:
Grd to Frt Wheel well stock-31 1/8 lift-36 3/4 = 5 5/8" higher
Grd to Rr Wheel well stock-31 3/4 lift-37 = 5 1/4" higher
Grd to Center Mirror stock-44 lift-49 1/2 = 5 1/2" higher

If your already pretty high like I've been reading this isn't an advantage but I wish it would of been available when I was stock!

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Know what you mean Joe Thanks for all the measurements along with all the questions from us in the peanut gallery! :lol: :lol: :lol: By the way yours has been one that I have followed along with all along so Thanks again

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That's exactly what Dan at Jeff Daniels Jeep Customizing showed me and why he cut off 3/8" of the tube. At full droop in the front my axle doesn't hit the tube. Joe :D

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Just checked ground clearance: to bottom of front skid = 11 1/2"
to bottom of rear diff. = 9"
I have worn some of the tread off my MTR's I believe when first done it was closer to 12" and 9 1/2", I wish that was better that's why I'd like to go to 33" or 34" tires in the future among other $1,000's of dollars worth of stuff my better half isn't approving of for the moment!
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Got a 4" kit going to be here maybe by the end of next week. Probably get it installed after moving into the new shop (woohoo, I finally found one), so by the end of November, should have it all together and beating it up on some of the local trails. We will be doing a full install writeup with actual lift gains and serious trail testing to get the Rock Lizard seal of approval. :twisted: I have no doubts this will be a quality kit, but we will definately be giving it a thorough inspection.

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So whose KJ is gonna be the Guinea Pig ? ? But that is cool you are going to test it out, and hopefully it will get the RL seal of approval.....

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Got a 4" kit going to be here maybe by the end of next week. Probably get it installed after moving into the new shop (woohoo, I finally found one), so by the end of November, should have it all together and beating it up on some of the local trails. We will be doing a full install writeup with actual lift gains and serious trail testing to get the Rock Lizard seal of approval. :twisted: I have no doubts this will be a quality kit, but we will definately be giving it a thorough inspection.


That's great news RL, & glad you found a new shop to call home.

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A new SHOP!!!!!!


AWESOME!


I think a party is in order. Shop warming party. All the LOST Rockies Colorado guys can give Marty a wrench or socket gift.

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That's great news RL, & glad you found a new shop to call home.



It's not set in stone yet. Checked it out today, going back Saturday with one more look over with Troy, then most likely sign the lease.


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