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why is a lift thread in the 4x2 performance section? :roll: :?

btw your kj looks good, hope your set up holds up. i'm not a fan of ott lifts.


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I'm in the concrete jungle here in the SF bay area...near ga_repoman. I assume you're in Reno by your city slogan. I go ATVing to the ghost towns in NV about once a month, but do "day rides" near the Pine Nuts/Johnson Lane. Been hitting the Sweetwaters and even the Hiltons Flying M ranch lately...lots to explore out there. We're doing a ride to Rochester/Aurora/Lucky Boy Pass between Hawthorne and Bridgeport in a few weeks.

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Checked out your cardomain page...good job, and gotta love white! Doesn't show the dirt as much, but also keeps it cooler in the desert. You have the type of wheeling a wish for, woods! All public land is locked up out here, especially the redwoods, my favorite for (outlaw) wheelin'....long ago. So I have to drive a few hours to the Sierras and Nevada for my fun....but moslty rocks.
I think the key to making the OTT lift work on daily drivers is the longer bumpstops. They keep the strut from bottoming out.

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Thanks, and I hear ya...OTT lifts are not for hard wheeling. There are better lifts for more money....though I didn't want to start a feud over it

This is a great site, with a lot of people sharing info on KJ's...it's saved me a lot of time and money.


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Cool, sounds like fun. You should come on our slick rock run in late Aug/early Sept.

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incubusmike wrote:
Cool, sounds like fun. You should come on our slick rock run in late Aug/early Sept.


obviously I missed it, busy with work....thanks for the invite though. Looks like you guys had a great time in some beautiful country.

Have you ever been out by Bridgeport? There are some cool loops from highway 338. You can go up Sand Canyon over to Pine Grove and loop around to Rockland, then come back over the hill thru Nye Canyon. Not very technical, but great scenery, a few mines, and some challenging spots.

Also might want to check out the trail to the summit of Mt Patterson at 12,000 feet before the USFS blocks it to 4 wheelers. Its do-able with an OTT lift with bumpstops since its not as rocky as most NV trails. Cool ghost town at 9000 feet called Belfort. Its a good ride for hot days to beat the heat. The switchbacks down the backside are narrow and carved into a STEEP cliffside. Lots of water and trees down there.

http://highway35.com/rockland/index.html

http://highway35.com/belfort/index2.html

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Peace out Homeboys? I left the Bronx a long time ago. I didnt think that lingo was still available, even the real Homeboys dont even use it . Wait im wrong.... that depends what HOMEBOYS you hang with

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Guess i will be a odd man out as well and say I've had Rusty's installed for a bit over a year, and so far they are great. Smooth, and gave me just the right look. I'm not sure what kit you have from Rusty's, but I went with the full kit, shocks, and had them professionally installed.

Now when I am ready to step up and get that 4" Frankin?? lift, I will go for that next. until then Rusty is doing just fine. ;-)

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I now have 7k miles on the OTT and NO probs with my front suspension. Nothing has blown-up/failed/squeaked/rubbed/broken/banged/clunked....even done some light wheeling. But the OE springs are too soft for serious wheeling. A stiffer valved strut might help, but a stiffer spring (higher spring rate) would be best for off-roading. But for me, the smooth highway and around town ride is just fine for now.

I think we need to support ANY small business that is willing to make useful products for us KJ owners. Rusty's was good to me, and even had good customer service over the phone. (disclaimer: that doesn't mean that everyone, all the time, will never have a problem with them...just that my transaction went smooth, and the product worked as advertised)

Yoy yo...is homeboy too old school for you? Glad to see you caught that. And yes, homeboys has ONE "e" in it....not three "o's".

Now, it's time for another trip to the middle of nowhere Nevada. Enjoy your summer.


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Interesting read.

Interesting to see i am not the first to butt heads with tommyboy.

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[quote="Back-n-Black"]Interesting read.

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tommudd wrote:
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Interesting read.

Interesting to see i am not the first to butt heads with tommyboy.


Names Tom but then you know that and I don't have time for immature children this morning so have a nice day :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


LOL, OK, its been a few hours since I jumped into a completly random argument so here goes :D

Don't worry guys, you arn't the only to but heads with tommyboy :twisted: And as far as calling us children, well Tom, isn't everyone a kid compared to you, from what I hear, and how much you go on about all your years of service, your what, 80 by now? So I guess in comparison, 60 year olds are immature children to you :lol: As far as this whole thread goes (I dont know how it got brought back to life), I was one that wanted a cheap lift, but after I realized I WILL WHEEL HARD, I decided against it. But the ONLY REAL COMPLAINT about the OTT lifts, is a bad ride, but as many say, its JUST AS BAD AS STOCK... and that is fine by many, myself included! So, yah, I think I'm done.

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Alright, alright, I retract my statements, I took that a bit far... NO hard feelings Tom?

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ObiHann wrote:
Alright, alright, I retract my statements, I took that a bit far... NO hard feelings Tom?


Hey we are cool, at least you have listened, asked questions, ( and more questions :wink: ) and took from what everyone has said and came up with a game plan for a lift that will do you a great job.

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Guys...this is getting old.

The next guy that cannot withstand the urge to start namecalling or in any way behave as a little biatch can expect a time out.

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tommudd wrote:
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Alright, alright, I retract my statements, I took that a bit far... NO hard feelings Tom?


Hey we are cool, at least you have listened, asked questions, ( and more questions :wink: ) and took from what everyone has said and came up with a game plan for a lift that will do you a great job.



If I ever get it :roll: LOL.

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Michael-dba, I said the exact same thing about springs and dampers in another thread and I didn't receive a warm welcome. Someone actually said that using MD springs with no bumper and no winch would make it ride like a cadillac or a tracker and that is not what they are interested in. They suggest going HD and no bumper and winch. They seem to prefer less droop and a firmer ride. To top it off they are using extended bump stops with OME struts limiting the travel even more!

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Michael-dba, I said the exact same thing about springs and dampers in another thread and I didn't receive a warm welcome. Someone actually said that using MD springs with no bumper and no winch would make it ride like a cadillac or a tracker and that is not what they are interested in. They suggest going HD and no bumper and winch. They seem to prefer less droop and a firmer ride. To top it off they are using extended bump stops with OME struts limiting the travel even more!


The other side of it is, 99.99999999% of those of us who are lifted have scooted the clevis further down the front shock, or have a small spacer on top of it, thus necessitating a longer bumpstop :roll:


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I am talking about using the lift how it was designed to be used. If you stack conduit nuts on the bottom of the strut,you only have to extend the bumpstop the thickness of the total number of nuts. a 2" bump stop will still take a way total travel. It would be better to shave it down close to the thickness of the total number of conduit nuts.

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trac95ker wrote:
Michael-dba, I said the exact same thing about springs and dampers in another thread and I didn't receive a warm welcome. Someone actually said that using MD springs with no bumper and no winch would make it ride like a cadillac or a tracker and that is not what they are interested in. They suggest going HD and no bumper and winch. They seem to prefer less droop and a firmer ride. To top it off they are using extended bump stops with OME struts limiting the travel even more!


I'm pretty there is a picture around here somewhere of the liberty with the OEM and extended bumps flexing, and it is FAR more than stock :) If I find it I'll let you know :wink:

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I'm pretty sure Troy has the bump stops in here
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And yellowcoyote has them here too
Image.... so how is this limited?

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