overcompressed?

Hood297 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:57 pm

Would these combo'd with rustys upper strut spacers work? then, if necessary, some clevis lift?

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:10 pm

I dont know, I dont see why not but try it and see, just be sure to check your CV angles and everything

Hood297 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:52 pm

jsc7002 wrote:

I dont know, I dont see why not but try it and see, just be sure to check your CV angles and everything

oh of course, I have never had enough lift to where i would be concerned with CV angles. but Im not goin to let them get out of hand.

LostRenegade · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:10 pm

Hood297 wrote:

Would these combo'd with rustys upper strut spacers work? then, if necessary, some clevis lift?

I did that to my sagging Rustly lift and it did help. After doing that, my struts started to make a loud crunch when I brake hard. I drove with it for a couple of years. I am now going to replace with a Frankenlift II Premium.

Hood297 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:41 pm

LostRenegade wrote:

Hood297 wrote:

Would these combo'd with rustys upper strut spacers work? then, if necessary, some clevis lift?

I did that to my sagging Rustly lift and it did help. After doing that, my struts started to make a loud crunch when I brake hard. I drove with it for a couple of years. I am now going to replace with a Frankenlift II Premium.

rustys spacer lift im assuming? do you have OME springs?

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:00 pm

hood, it seems like you and i are in the same position.. i thought about doing OME790 springs and a spacer lift.. RRO... or Rusty's... or Daystar.. and maybe a clevis with them.. i dont see why this couldnt/wouldnt work.. and it would def. give you the height you want. Thats why i'm going to just replace my frankenlift OME HD spring with the OME790 and keep all the gasser frankenlift height adders.. i think you can buy just those pieces (spacer, daystar topplate) if you call Allj's.. so that is always a possibility for you... plus you can use me as a test hamster...

Guest · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:25 pm

jsc7002 wrote:

hwne I was compressing my OME HD coils by hand

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:49 pm

been staying out of this one, but as 2006Kj and I have talked before, I think the best bet is the gas Franky with 790 springs , in my head it will work, I think combining some of the rest mentioned is going to be more trouble than its worth in the long run. I would set it up that way run it for a while , can always do a clevis real easy later , the springs alone will hold the weight so all you need to add in is the extra heighth that you are looking for which the Franky parts should do

NOW>>>>> hurry up and someone do it before I have to try it :lol:

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:03 pm

tommudd wrote:

been staying out of this one, but as 2006Kj and I have talked before, I think the best bet is the gas Franky with 790 springs , in my head it will work, I think combining some of the rest mentioned is going to be more trouble than its worth in the long run. I would set it up that way run it for a while , can always do a clevis real easy later , the springs alone will hold the weight so all you need to add in is the extra heighth that you are looking for which the Franky parts should do

NOW>>>>> hurry up and someone do it before I have to try it :lol:

i'm trying i'm trying!!! springs were ordered 2 weeks ago today.. so if they dont get here soon.. someone is going to be walking to ARB in washington State and back to get them to me!!!!!!

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:14 pm

How are you guys having so much problems with sagging with OME HD coils and OEM CRD coils?

I'm running the non-softride SkyJacker coils,estimated 425-450lbs spring rate,and they have held up my ARB with winch for over 4 years and 45,000 miles and many trail miles.I lost only 1/4" when the ARB/winch was first installed,compinsated with a 3/8" clevis lift and have not lost a 32nd of a inch since and like I said that was over 4 years ago and 45,ooo miles of use.To tell you the truth I think my front coils are just getting broke in finally,when I first installed the lift you could not move the front suspension at all and I could corner like a Ferrari,now I can push the front end down maybe 1/2" with all my weight(200lbs).

Glad I went with the SkyJacker lift

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Oh and have fun compressing those 790's enough to install a spacer,I'll send my condolenses to your family.

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:14 pm

where did you order them? Man 2 weeks is enough time to walk them to you without you walking there! :lol:

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:00 am

tjkj2002 wrote:

How are you guys having so much problems with sagging with OME HD coils and OEM CRD coils?

I'm running the non-softride SkyJacker coils,estimated 425-450lbs spring rate,and they have held up my ARB with winch for over 4 years and 45,000 miles and many trail miles.I lost only 1/4" when the ARB/winch was first installed,compinsated with a 3/8" clevis lift and have not lost a 32nd of a inch since and like I said that was over 4 years ago and 45,ooo miles of use.To tell you the truth I think my front coils are just getting broke in finally,when I first installed the lift you could not move the front suspension at all and I could corner like a Ferrari,now I can push the front end down maybe 1/2" with all my weight(200lbs).

Glad I went with the SkyJacker lift

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Oh and have fun compressing those 790's enough to install a spacer,I'll send my condolenses to your family.

Hood is changing because of his "stack" and i'm changing for a few reasons... 1. I dont like how the front end now feels "soft".. bounces much much easier and feels sloppy compared to what it was without the extra 200lbs (obviously). 2. i lost 1/2-3/4 inch in the front.. and looking to gain it back... new springs is the answer to both of those questions. And thanks in advance for your thoughts

dont know how it'll turn out.. or if it'll work.. but i'm pretty sure it will. We have an industrial strength spring compressor at our body shop... we've compressed everything from focus springs to F350... 1 ton chevy's... and very large municipal trucks with cummings.. springs.. pretty sure it wont mind a few CRD's :twisted:

Inc · **Posted:** Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:04 am

If you have an industrial spring compressor, and get it all assembled and installed without it blowing apart, what is going to happen when you go down a really bumpy road or off a drop and the spring unloads really quickly? I would think eventually all that pressure is going to be released one way or another and any way that happens is a bad thing. Not worth it to me.

Hood297 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:09 am

OK

so to stop beating a dead horse. what would be the most cost effective and best way for me to fix this situation? I am not looking for a lot more height, but a small amount would be good.

can this be achieved by ditching my RC strut spacer, and replacing with OME 790 coils new struts, and possibly some clevis lift?

and thanks again to everyone helpin me out on this one!

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:11 am

incubusmike wrote:

If you have an industrial spring compressor, and get it all assembled and installed without it blowing apart, what is going to happen when you go down a really bumpy road or off a drop and the spring unloads really quickly? I would think eventually all that pressure is going to be released one way or another and any way that happens is a bad thing. Not worth it to me.

Agree...............

Just think the whole assembly is held together by a bolt(actually a stud) of the 3/8" size and nut.

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:18 am

could happen to any of them really if you think about it,
but sit here and write about it does nothing to help Hood answer his question

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:23 am

tommudd wrote:

could happen to any of them really if you think about it,
but sit here and write about it does nothing to help Hood answer his question

x2

soo hood... i think what you suggested is the cheapest and best lift for your situation.

Inc · **Posted:** Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:48 am

This is my 2 cents in relation to the question. It may or may not help the problem. I am not a suspension specialist nor do I engineer suspension components so I don't really like piecing one of the most critical parts of a 4x4 together to see if it works. I leave that to the people I buy a suspension lift from. Now if there is a lift like the OME one guys on here run, that can be put together from separate pieces to create a lift that is known to work, then that is one thing, but to try and add parts to a finished product to tweak it and may cause the original design to fail so you can get by with bigger tires or more lift doesn't seem worth it to me. I would vote for Hood to sell his lift to someone with not as much armor and weight on their KJ and buy a lift that would better suit him. May cost more up front but he may have to go that route in the end anyway.

Hood297 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:52 am

incubusmike wrote:

This is my 2 cents in relation to the question. It may or may not help the problem. I am not a suspension specialist nor do I engineer suspension components so I don't really like piecing one of the most critical parts of a 4x4 together to see if it works. I leave that to the people I buy a suspension lift from. Now if there is a lift like the OME one guys on here run, that can be put together from separate pieces to create a lift that is known to work, then that is one thing, but to try and add parts to a finished product to tweak it and may cause the original design to fail so you can get by with bigger tires or more lift doesn't seem worth it to me. I would vote for Hood to sell his lift to someone with not as much armor and weight on their KJ and buy a lift that would better suit him. May cost more up front but he may have to go that route in the end anyway.

The only thing I will be running as a lift up front is new OME 790 springs (no RC spacer) new struts (needed anyway) clevis (if necessary) and rustys upper strut plate (claimed to give 1/2" lift also only if necessary).

Inc · **Posted:** Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:58 am

I'd get ahold of a guy with a Frankie CRD and see how that lift is put together. Seems like that lift would sit way high and/or ride real stiff on a gasser. I've never looked at one up close but I imagine it sounds like the lift you described Hood minus the clevis and strut plate. Again I don't know.

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