Possible lift/suspension kits????

mrneen · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:45 pm

if i bougt the bds suspension kit ... would i need anything else? or does it come with everything

kingjeep · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:04 pm

you can get the ome and rancho stuff from allj.com

jeepkj02 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:03 pm

JeepinJarhead03 wrote:

what are the REAR bds coil rates! :lol:

I don't know, your going to have to contact BDS for that.

Murphyman · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:50 pm

The rears are a few lbs above BDS, like 200 and some change. I personally don't see anything wrong with BDS, thats why I went it it. People, the OME fans, might find something wrong with it, but I just like em. I Know OME is good, but why not do something different? Not saying that quality isn't important, but BDS obviously knows what's good. My vote is BDS, but it's bias... Gotta love that warranty though.

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:01 pm

i love my front springs so far

i do have jba2.5's in the back, and with an incoming weight addition to the rear im totally game for heavier springs in the 2-3 inch range

Murphyman · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:04 pm

mrneen wrote:

if i bougt the bds suspension kit ... would i need anything else? or does it come with everything

Depends on if you want new struts or the stock ones. It comes with some bracket that uses your stock ones, but I opted for the new Ranchos. $150 upgrade, but you will prob end up getting new struts sometime down the road anyways. But besides that, it comes with everything. No bumpstops, but BDS says you don't need them. Others would disagree here, but BDS claims that the coils can bind and return to their original state without sag. And if they do sag or get messed up, well just return em and get new ones through their awesome warranty.

daspes · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:35 pm

Murphyman wrote:

mrneen wrote:

if i bougt the bds suspension kit ... would i need anything else? or does it come with everything

Depends on if you want new struts or the stock ones. It comes with some bracket that uses your stock ones, but I opted for the new Ranchos. $150 upgrade, but you will prob end up getting new struts sometime down the road anyways. But besides that, it comes with everything. No bumpstops, but BDS says you don't need them. Others would disagree here, but BDS claims that the coils can bind and return to their original state without sag. And if they do sag or get messed up, well just return em and get new ones through their awesome warranty.

Will there warranty replace your fender flares when your tire rips them off?

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:37 pm

going on a whim here, but isn't that more along the lines of what the bump stops are for ?

Murphyman · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:44 pm

daspes wrote:

Murphyman wrote:

mrneen wrote:

if i bougt the bds suspension kit ... would i need anything else? or does it come with everything

Depends on if you want new struts or the stock ones. It comes with some bracket that uses your stock ones, but I opted for the new Ranchos. $150 upgrade, but you will prob end up getting new struts sometime down the road anyways. But besides that, it comes with everything. No bumpstops, but BDS says you don't need them. Others would disagree here, but BDS claims that the coils can bind and return to their original state without sag. And if they do sag or get messed up, well just return em and get new ones through their awesome warranty.

Will there warranty replace your fender flares when your tire rips them off?

If that's the kind of wheelin' you're doing, bumpstops would be needed. Haha. I'm going to get them, but no kits come with them, except the Frankenlift... And that's only the rears, right?

Bumpstops are always a debateable question. All he's asking for is some lift for his Jeep.

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:45 pm

i personally used teraflex for the front and hockey pucks for the rear

JMSMN · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:50 pm

The BDS rear coil rated are 210 lbs. I talked the phone a couple of weeks ago. And like said earlier the front are 435 lbs. And something else, made in the USA!

Murphyman · **Posted:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:05 am

JeepinJarhead03 wrote:

i personally used teraflex for the front and hockey pucks for the rear

For some reason I have it in my mind that bumpstops make you lose a lot of flex. Just tell me otherwise and I will be happy. Oh and did you just glue the hocky pucks together?

daspes · **Posted:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:28 am

Bumpstops limit the amount of up travel so that you wheel or axle doesn't hit the body, or anything attached to it.

Murphyman · **Posted:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:30 am

Sounds like a no brainer.

Rudy · **Posted:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:09 am

JeepinJarhead03 wrote:

not to beat a dead horse..

but that would just frag his shiney new shocks considering his stock coils have 80k on them

x2, I made the same mistake. Spacers+Old Coils=Should of payed more for a real lift.

mrneen · **Posted:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:22 am

Murphyman wrote:

daspes wrote:

Murphyman wrote:

mrneen wrote:

if i bougt the bds suspension kit ... would i need anything else? or does it come with everything

Depends on if you want new struts or the stock ones. It comes with some bracket that uses your stock ones, but I opted for the new Ranchos. $150 upgrade, but you will prob end up getting new struts sometime down the road anyways. But besides that, it comes with everything. No bumpstops, but BDS says you don't need them. Others would disagree here, but BDS claims that the coils can bind and return to their original state without sag. And if they do sag or get messed up, well just return em and get new ones through their awesome warranty.

Will there warranty replace your fender flares when your tire rips them off?

If that's the kind of wheelin' you're doing, bumpstops would be needed. Haha. I'm going to get them, but no kits come with them, except the Frankenlift... And that's only the rears, right?

Bumpstops are always a debateable question. All he's asking for is some lift for his Jeep.

i usually dont wheel that much... occasional trails that are in the woods of rhode island with my wrangler buddies

Murphyman · **Posted:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:47 am

All depends on your wheelin' habbits. If you don't want to spend the extra cash just yet, hold out on the bump stops for a bit.

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:17 am

forgot to hit quote but someone asked how i put my pucks together for the rear

i just took all 3 and drilled a hole through them and drilled a hole in the lower spring pan or whatever you call the lower spring support dish dooda

stuck a bolt through the pucks, stuck the pucksinside the coil, installed the coil and then bolted the pucks down

it was somethin like 2 dollars for the carrage bolt + nuts, and 2 dollars x 6 for the 6 hockey pucks

and i paid whatever terraflex charges for front bump stops

regardless of wheeling habits, i've noticed there's roads around here that i tag the bumpstops on (atleast in the rear) more often than i would off road

TAHOE · **Posted:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:04 am

I think I already read it but I will also repeat it.... since your current suspension has 80k on it, you really should save up couple extra hundred $$$ and get all four spring, all four new shocks/struts, bumpstops, and be done with it....you will be much happier and won't have to tear your suspension apart again in a year to redo stuff. I've helped install both OME and BDS springs and both seemed of good quality, I personally may end up going with BDS also in the future as we have a dealer within driving distance so I can save on shipping.
I've lifted my own fullsize Chevy's, also lifted my Chevy astro van, done both with complete kids and piecing together..... from experience, get a complete kit and be done with it. More money up front, but satisfaction alot longer and less problems.

mrneen · **Posted:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:38 pm

TAHOE wrote:

I think I already read it but I will also repeat it.... since your current suspension has 80k on it, you really should save up couple extra hundred $$$ and get all four spring, all four new shocks/struts, bumpstops, and be done with it....you will be much happier and won't have to tear your suspension apart again in a year to redo stuff. I've helped install both OME and BDS springs and both seemed of good quality, I personally may end up going with BDS also in the future as we have a dealer within driving distance so I can save on shipping.
I've lifted my own fullsize Chevy's, also lifted my Chevy astro van, done both with complete kids and piecing together..... from experience, get a complete kit and be done with it. More money up front, but satisfaction alot longer and less problems.

i plan on changing all 4 springs... from the price of the bds... might end up going that route... but i might use the rancho struts. you think that would work for me?

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