How fast is too fast under 4hi?

jeep4life7 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:47 pm

and i said might kick out

waywardtravel · **Posted:** Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:27 pm

Come on guys, We all know many idiots drive on the road. We also should all know and let the 17 year old kid reading this that when your steering wheels are driven by an engine you have more directional control. That does not say that you can stop any faster. Be safe but have some fun. I've had lot's of FUN cars and trucks over the years and I buy and build them out of a passion for machines and the thrill of driving. I've rolled at least 25 times in my life but never on road or un-anticipated and always in something built to roll over with minimal damage. "Always carry spare oil". My Liberty will not be for rolling and not all that much offroad, IFS, clearance, torque. I'm not sure if ultra conservative and off road should be used in the same sentence. :JEEPIN:

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:12 am

jeep4life7 wrote:

Jeep4life7 : the main thing is that 4wd does help thats all i was saying and yes u can slide if u have no common sense when driving so how bout u shut up :goink:
so dont go around being a a-hole to everone that leaves "unwise" advice as u would say. just be muture about it and say hey " your a little off here" and correct it so everyone can get along on this site and give good advice

I think this has went too far now
above statements are not what most of us do or say on here
Calm it back down

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:18 am

jeep4life7 wrote:

tommudd wrote:

I would safely bet that I can take a two wheel drive with proper tires and go on most any snow covered roads that people here in the Midwest and East think they need to be running in 4 WD with :roll:

Most times you don't need it :banghead:

Dont come to wyoming then u will get raped on the mountian roads here my half brothers dads thought the same thing as u had a suburban with great snow and ice tires on the pass from dubois to jackson hole and was just in 2wd and lost control going 45 and fliped his car and went into a 10 foot tall snow drift and died from to snow breaking through his windows and suffocating him

Now please take the time to reread what I wrote before saying anything.
I was talking about Midwest and East coast, now in my geography lessons Wyoming ( with a capitol W by the way) was not in either area.
Plus I have seen plenty of various 4 wheel drives flipped over as well from sliding or going over hills/mountains. Common sense again which a lot of people do not have.
Would be nice if people could use spell check! :wink:

SabaII · **Joined:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:48 am **Posts:** 62

Case in point to what the majority of people have said. Just yesterday I was on my way to do some x-mas shopping with my girlfriend. Was exiting the highway and doing 45 in a 65 due to road conditions. I had it in full time 4wd. Not because it gives me extra confidence but because all of the intersections had tons of snow on them from the plows and I was sick of spinning tires. Anyhow I was coming off the highway slowing down the whole time. A car was at the stoplight which I would estimate to be 1000ft from the exit. So I had about 1000ft give or take to slow down from 45. Well I got on ice and was fighting the car to slow down and ended up bumping the person at the light at about 5mph. See how well 4wd helped me stop? :banghead:

waywardtravel · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:02 am

Studded tires where and when legal are the best solution for even stopping. Chains do little to nothing on ICY snowy streets.
see this from back home http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL6xzJUlNvo happens every winter. I had studded and sometimes chained tires every year.

NEWSFLASH Panama Canal was closed a couple of days ago due to record rainfall. Streets flooded, Houses gone, Unfortunately loss of life. I don't have water at my house due to flooding, I'm going to the boat I work on for a hot shower then meeting up with a couple other trucks and a few dancing peppers :pepper:

putting chains on locked 35's and taking advantage of this catastrophe. Have a good day. :wink:

jeep4life7 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:20 am

tommudd wrote:

jeep4life7 wrote:

Jeep4life7 : the main thing is that 4wd does help thats all i was saying and yes u can slide if u have no common sense when driving so how bout u shut up :goink:
so dont go around being a a-hole to everone that leaves "unwise" advice as u would say. just be muture about it and say hey " your a little off here" and correct it so everyone can get along on this site and give good advice

I think this has went too far now
above statements are not what most of us do or say on here
Calm it back down

and that wat i was saying hence the be muture statment but this a hole just sent me a p.m. so he can continue to be rude and not get kicked :banghead:

devlish · **Joined:** Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:50 am **Posts:** 163

jeep4life7 wrote:

If u go around a corner in 2wd and its icey ur rear tires might kick out if ur power is less in the back and a little bit of power in the front YOUR REAR END WONT KICK OUT!.................SO 4WD WILL HELP GO AROUND CORNERS!

but yes it wont help u stop any idiot should know that

PS: i hope i never go on a icey moutian pass when your around

Less power in the back?? Or MORE power in the back?? Either way, most people that think 4WD is a godsend for winter driving and will hit the brakes when they start to slide, not give a little more gas like you or I will to get the front tires to pull us through the corner. Those same people don't realize it won't help them stop!

PS: I'll be the one pulling you out of the ditch on that icey mountain pass. You can thank me later :mrgreen:

waywardtravel · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:42 am

My first car was a 1963 Volkswagen bug. I bought it at 15 and it sat in the back yard then high school shop (with me tinkering) until I was 15 1/2 and had a permit to drive. At my age 16 it could pull the front tires off the ground. 11.2 1/4mi. With chains on it in the packed snow "not ice" it went like a bat out of hell. Faster than most 4wd's in my area. The big problem was turning. It did have enough power to power clutch it to the side and steer though. I thought of adding steering brakes for fun but it was a street car. It was just a blast. No I didn't go fast where other cars were. One day in the deep snow the bead on a fram remote oil filter blew because of the COLD oil and high volume oil pump and I lost all the oil. Being dumb and young I wasn't watching the oil pressure gauge and bang. I didn't feel the engine seizing because of the stereo. ( at least that's my story) With my dads help Fram bought me a new engine. The outer filter body was gone. All cars have 4wbrakes some have 4WD, all work in snow at least a little. I think the original was relating to how fast can you drive in 4 wheel high. Some have answered that pretty well. We still don't know what transfer case he has which will definitely change things at least some. I've never tried it with a temp gauge on the transfer case yet, so I don’t have a positive answer.
I'm sure somewhere on the net we can find forums RE: common sense, responsibility, or drivers education, or spelling for that matter. Let's talk about what we can do, or want to do, or have done to or in our Jeeps, cars, or trucks. Sorry I'm a noob here and to forums altogether excluding Chevelle and Camaro tech, but the wealth of knowledge on this site is excellent for the KJ. I'll try to stay out of these kinds of posts in the future.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:29 pm

SabaII wrote:

See how well 4wd helped me stop? :banghead:

The above statement,along with others that have said similair are actually false.

Now if you know how to drive stopping on ice in 4wd is much quicker then in 2wd,even 2wd with ABS.I bet I can stop faster on ice in 4wd without barely using the brakes then you can in 2wd with ABS.It's called downshifting,does not work very well on quick decels in 2wd of course unless you like the rear axle passing the front real quick.

This does not work with full time 4wd and is not a reason to drive around all the time in part time 4wd(you will break stuff),and most importantly does not mean to speed in part time 4WD.If you need part time 4wd you should not be doing 40mph+.

jeep4life7 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:20 pm

devlish wrote:

jeep4life7 wrote:

If u go around a corner in 2wd and its icey ur rear tires might kick out if ur power is less in the back and a little bit of power in the front YOUR REAR END WONT KICK OUT!.................SO 4WD WILL HELP GO AROUND CORNERS!

but yes it wont help u stop any idiot should know that

PS: i hope i never go on a icey moutian pass when your around

Less power in the back?? Or MORE power in the back?? Either way, most people that think 4WD is a godsend for winter driving and will hit the brakes when they start to slide, not give a little more gas like you or I will to get the front tires to pull us through the corner. Those same people don't realize it won't help them stop!

PS: I'll be the one pulling you out of the ditch on that icey mountain pass. You can thank me later :mrgreen:

Thats were ur wrong again even if i was in a ditch i wouldnt need help getting out. and yes when u put ur jeep in 4wd u get less power in the back but even less than that in the front its not a godsend and why in the hell would u ever be on the brakes I KNOW THAT.

jeep4life7 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:22 pm

tjkj2002 wrote:

SabaII wrote:

See how well 4wd helped me stop? :banghead:

The above statement,along with others that have said similair are actually false.

Now if you know how to drive stopping on ice in 4wd is much quicker then in 2wd,even 2wd with ABS.I bet I can stop faster on ice in 4wd without barely using the brakes then you can in 2wd with ABS.It's called downshifting,does not work very well on quick decels in 2wd of course unless you like the rear axle passing the front real quick.

This does not work with full time 4wd and is not a reason to drive around all the time in part time 4wd(you will break stuff),and most importantly does not mean to speed in part time 4WD.If you need part time 4wd you should not be doing 40mph+.

X2 UR THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS POST I AGREE WITH. THANK THE LORD!

devlish · **Joined:** Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:50 am **Posts:** 163

jeep4life7 wrote:

devlish wrote:

jeep4life7 wrote:

If u go around a corner in 2wd and its icey ur rear tires might kick out if ur power is less in the back and a little bit of power in the front YOUR REAR END WONT KICK OUT!.................SO 4WD WILL HELP GO AROUND CORNERS!

but yes it wont help u stop any idiot should know that

PS: i hope i never go on a icey moutian pass when your around

Less power in the back?? Or MORE power in the back?? Either way, most people that think 4WD is a godsend for winter driving and will hit the brakes when they start to slide, not give a little more gas like you or I will to get the front tires to pull us through the corner. Those same people don't realize it won't help them stop!

PS: I'll be the one pulling you out of the ditch on that icey mountain pass. You can thank me later :mrgreen:

Thats were ur wrong again even if i was in a ditch i wouldnt need help getting out. and yes when u put ur jeep in 4wd u get less power in the back but even less than that in the front its not a godsend and why in the hell would u ever be on the brakes I KNOW THAT.

yet in your first post you talk about being in 2WD and having less power in the back? Is your jeep front wheel drive? :banghead:

do you ever think things thru in your head before you type them? or just spew random crap online??

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:23 pm

Used to be great when people typed out full sentences and you could actually know what they were saying :dizzy:

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:25 pm

tommudd wrote:

Used to be great when people typed out full sentences and you could actually know what they were saying :dizzy:

Hoked one fonics worked for me :-)r

devlish · **Joined:** Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:50 am **Posts:** 163

tommudd wrote:

Used to be great when people typed out full sentences and you could actually know what they were saying :dizzy:

jeep4life7 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:33 pm

tommudd wrote:

jeep4life7 wrote:

tommudd wrote:

I would safely bet that I can take a two wheel drive with proper tires and go on most any snow covered roads that people here in the Midwest and East think they need to be running in 4 WD with :roll:

Most times you don't need it :banghead:

Dont come to wyoming then u will get raped on the mountian roads here my half brothers dads thought the same thing as u had a suburban with great snow and ice tires on the pass from dubois to jackson hole and was just in 2wd and lost control going 45 and fliped his car and went into a 10 foot tall snow drift and died from to snow breaking through his windows and suffocating him

Now please take the time to reread what I wrote before saying anything.
I was talking about Midwest and East coast, now in my geography lessons Wyoming ( with a capitol W by the way) was not in either area.
Plus I have seen plenty of various 4 wheel drives flipped over as well from sliding or going over hills/mountains. Common sense again which a lot of people do not have.
Would be nice if people could use spell check! :wink:

my bad no need to be rude because im retarted and cant use spell check or maybe i just dont give a crap haha :mrgreen:

jeep4life7 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:39 pm

no i was talking about 4wd my bad. and if u knew how to make sence of things people say u would get it. but lets all just calm down and take a deep breath and stop being a-holes because i dont have school smarts

jeep4life7 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:48 pm

tjkj2002 wrote:

tommudd wrote:

Used to be great when people typed out full sentences and you could actually know what they were saying :dizzy:

Hoked one fonics worked for me :-)r

hahahahaha i can tell it worked great

Its hooked on phonics by the way :mrgreen:

stumpjumper_09 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:51 pm

New page stop the insanity!!!

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