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looks much better! did you really just gain 2"??

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jsc7002 wrote:
looks much better! did you really just gain 2"??


Yep, it would appear to be that way. My understanding is that the amount of final lift is based on how much your original suspension is sagging and or the original setup you had. Once you remove the original equipment, you're starting from zero and should get the full 2 1/2" regardless of what the before and after measurements show.

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A few things to keep in mind about lifting KJ's. When you swap out the front struts with a complete new replacement unit, it no longer becomes "lowered" or "prelowered" KJ. The stock springs are what decides that. Once the stock strut assembly is in the trash, you ARE ALL at the same starting point.

KJ's ALL VARY in the ride height department. Some have saggy springs, some have stiffer springs. This is why you get KJ's sitting at all different ride heights from the factory. If you add a Daystar or other spacer lift, you are dependent on the condition of the factory springs. We have had KJ's come into the shop with such soft springs that they got over 4" of lift when lifted with a new front strut set. They didn't really get 4", they are just 2.5" over stock, and they were sagging 1.5" below stock. And that 2.5" over stock is about the most mysterious actual measurement I have ever seen.

Example: Frankenlift. It is called a 2.5" lift. That's pretty close to what it measures. If you get a little less or a little more, that would depend on where your stock KJ sat stock. From the factory, there are about 15 different factory front KJ springs to choose from. They are all ordered by VIN. Confusing to say the least. All J has a pretty good handle on which springs will stiffen up the KJ and which ones are too soft. But in the long run, if you are going to lift the KJ compare yours to another stock KJ to see where you sit. If your KJ is up where it should be, than a spacer lift will work for you. A cheaper way to go. If your KJ is a low rider from saggy springs, and sits way low, or bottoms out a lot stock, then don't do a spacer lift, go for the full spring lift.


http://www.boulderbars.com/frankenlift_faq.htm


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Did you put those fancy-pants on one leg at a time? :D

After picts look awesome! Before pict makes me miss Colorado. No snow at the beach. :cry:

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are your measurements with factory gsa's or aftermarket tires?


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I don't think the tires look that bad actually. Your pocket book will be happier keeping them, your fuel mileage won't get hurt so bad with heavier/tatller tires and you will have better gear ratios with that tire than a 245/75/16.

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03kjsport wrote:
are your measurements with factory gsa's or aftermarket tires?


Yep, the before and after measurements are with stock size (235/70/16) BFG's. I've had them for about a year now. That was the second thing I did to it.

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measure from the center of the wheel to the bottom of the flare and let me know what that is.

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Man it looks good.
When I lifted mine, I also had a set of 225/75/16 BFG AT/KO and they looked like skate board wheels.

I skated around untill I got my moabs and 245/75 in and slapped em on and now it looks AWSOME!

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Why do I feel like I am the only person running 245/70/16 on stock suspension? Anyone else with them? I am debating on the next set of rubber to go with 245/75/16 but not sure yet. I have about 1-2 more years with these than time for new again.

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I ran 245-70X16 when I was unlifted and then for a while after I was lifted, ran good and the tires would not wear out (Destination ATs) so I had to sell them and buy bigger :twisted:

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I ran 245-70X16 when I was unlifted and then for a while after I was lifted, ran good and the tires would not wear out (Destination ATs) so I had to sell them and buy bigger :twisted:


x2 I really like my Destination ATs. I am thinking that after a lift I will try the Destination MTs in 245 75R16

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I am wondering how long my tires will last. They are starting to crack and due to some of the trails have some chunks of rubber missing :D Perhaps more trails are needed to help...speed up the process, lol.

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I too join the Frankenlifted group ... runs nice!

Front strut out
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The pro working on the rear, yelling out commands like a doctor
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Me actually doing something (tightening the bumperstop ...lol)
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Libbys side by side in the dark ... lol
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I too join the Frankenlifted group ... runs nice!


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Is it me, or do those tires look really small? What size are those??

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nope they look really small, but thats a good thing :)

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Well after a long and much anticipated wait, I finally have my Jeep on the road. I was waiting for the fall before I put insurance on it as I drive lots of highway in the summer.

I had some creaking and groaning in the front sway bar, but after torquing the bolts down to spec's it's gone. It's a fantastic ride, but now I keep hearing this giddy giggling sound every time I wheel over or through something. I'm sure that'll go away in a few years :D. I did wheel it pretty good the other day and made sure to give the suspension a good workout before the wheel alignment scheduled for this Wednesday. My g/f found me a coupon for a free-bee wheel alignment from the same place that did it last time. Pretty happy about that! Can't wait to get out and get some wheeling pics this fall!

Love the frankenlift so far, but I have noticed that I get substantial tire rubbing now that it's installed. I still have the same 235/70/16 BFG's that I had prior to the lift (no rubbing then), but now they hit the sway bar at full lock.

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Well after a long and much anticipated wait, I finally have my Jeep on the road. I was waiting for the fall before I put insurance on it as I drive lots of highway in the summer.

I had some creaking and groaning in the front sway bar, but after torquing the bolts down to spec's it's gone. It's a fantastic ride, but now I keep hearing this giddy giggling sound every time I wheel over or through something. I'm sure that'll go away in a few years :D. I did wheel it pretty good the other day and made sure to give the suspension a good workout before the wheel alignment scheduled for this Wednesday. My g/f found me a coupon for a free-bee wheel alignment from the same place that did it last time. Pretty happy about that! Can't wait to get out and get some wheeling pics this fall!

Love the frankenlift so far, but I have noticed that I get substantial tire rubbing now that it's installed. I still have the same 235/70/16 BFG's that I had prior to the lift (no rubbing then), but now they hit the sway bar at full lock.


If you have not had it aligned yet then you may get some tire rubbing, an alignment will "help" that some or maybe almost all

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how long did it take for the install??

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Should be able to install it in 4 hours or less even if you have never done one before. Front takes the longest of course, rear 30 to 45 minutes at most :wink: Several tricks you can do to "hurry" it along

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I'm putting my Franky II Prem. on this friday, but the instructions do not mention about how to mount the rear brakeline bracket...... Anyone have any ideas?

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