Question regarding Lifting my Liberty

oddball · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:40 pm

Can we back up a minute...

TAHOE wrote:

We installed a BDS kit in Sperb's Libby back in April (check the Ohio section for lift party) It used Rancho struts/shocks and came with new top plates and all hardware, looked like a decent kit. I may consider it when I do ours. He netted about 3 1/2" initially, probably settled alittle since.

Tahoe you wrote; "it used Rancho shocks...", but the lift kit I see on the BDS website states "BDS shocks" in the rear. It also states BDS new "Pro-Ride coil springs", do you or anyone else know if these are med or HD rated springs?

One last question not specific to Tahoe's quote... Does anyone know (or know how to figure out) what other vehicles use the Rancho RSX 17505 shocks? My thought was, if I could cross that info, maybe I could also find BDS shocks that would work since they don't list or offer front shocks in the kit.

FWIW, I've read nothing but excellent reviews including articles on BDS systems in general (mainly regarding TJ's, JK's & XJ's) and am wondering if their KJ kit might be excellent too?

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:48 pm

oddball wrote:

Can we back up a minute...

TAHOE wrote:

We installed a BDS kit in Sperb's Libby back in April (check the Ohio section for lift party) It used Rancho struts/shocks and came with new top plates and all hardware, looked like a decent kit. I may consider it when I do ours. He netted about 3 1/2" initially, probably settled alittle since.

Tahoe you wrote; "it used Rancho shocks...", but the lift kit I see on the BDS website states "BDS shocks" in the rear. It also states BDS new "Pro-Ride coil springs", do you or anyone else know if these are med or HD rated springs?

One last question not specific to Tahoe's quote... Does anyone know (or know how to figure out) what other vehicles use the Rancho RSX 17505 shocks? My thought was, if I could cross that info, maybe I could also find BDS shocks that would work since they don't list or offer front shocks in the kit.

FWIW, I've read nothing but excellent reviews including articles on BDS systems in general (mainly regarding TJ's, JK's & XJ's) and am wondering if their KJ kit might be excellent too?

AHHH Tahoe was drunk that day.....the reason why he didn't notice the BDS shocks that were installed on the rear
:wink:

From what I have seen they are in the 350/375 range or so about like the OME light or medium duty

oddball · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:50 pm

Thanks tom. We can always count on you to give a sober reply. :wink:

jhblackwell · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:44 pm

thanks. have two shops locally. I'll check.

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:41 pm

listen to tom he knows his stuff

... i'm a firm believer if waiting until you can do it the right way the first time... for me that was the frankenlift. i installed it myself and it's been trouble free for 25000 miles. the OME lift is the same quality (since it uses much of the same parts).. but less height since it lacks the spacers the frankenlift comes with. you can get more height out of the OME lift with some tricks and still keep the cost down. i agree with tom OME springs (front and rear), Rancho shocks (Front and rear). however i would add 3 conduit nuts per side in the front.. and an extra rear upper iso in the rear. it will tack on another $30 but give your jeep a great stance and very nice height.

Cpike · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:44 pm

I think I'm going to go with the OME struts, I just emailed my local jeep place and asked them for a quote, depending on what they say I may just try to use my works automotive shop and install it on a Saturday with some buddies.

What are conduit nuts and a rear upper iso ? Where would I get them?

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:48 pm

2 inch conduit nuts are a common hardware part for securing pvc and what not against a wall and such

those taped together things are 3 conduit nuts stacked and taped together

rear upper coil iso's are a rubber doughnut sort of deal that you can get from a dealer for about 45 bucks for 4

can probably get the iso's cheeper online i'd think

Cpike · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:56 pm

Alright, what Tom suggested is looking more and more like what im going to do.

Questions about the frankenlifts, The website has 4 lift kits, what will be the difference in the premium vs standard lifts?

Is OME better then rancho? Or just that particular instance?

And If I was able to wait and not spend the money I've been saving for this, and got the Frankenlift II Premium how much height would that give me?

And since its pre-assembled...then it would be easier to isntall?

Thanks again guys, I really appreciate all the information. I do want to do it right and I may be able to wait another couple weeks before I buy a lift and save up for the Premium Frankenlight II

tumanator · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:05 pm

Cpike wrote:

Alright, what Tom suggested is looking more and more like what im going to do.

Questions about the frankenlifts, The website has 4 lift kits, what will be the difference in the premium vs standard lifts?

Is OME better then rancho? Or just that particular instance?

And If I was able to wait and not spend the money I've been saving for this, and got the Frankenlift II Premium how much height would that give me?

And since its pre-assembled...then it would be easier to isntall?

Thanks again guys, I really appreciate all the information. I do want to do it right and I may be able to wait another couple weeks before I buy a lift and save up for the Premium Frankenlight II

Actually Read this post, i asked the same question -
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=43459

Hez10 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:57 am **Posts:** 47

BDS informed me the spring rate is 410lbs. This would be comparable to the HD OME springs.

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:07 am

Hez10 wrote:

BDS informed me the spring rate is 410lbs. This would be comparable to the HD OME springs.

interesting wonder if they changed the ratings

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:12 am

Cpike wrote:

Alright, what Tom suggested is looking more and more like what im going to do.

Questions about the frankenlifts, The website has 4 lift kits, what will be the difference in the premium vs standard lifts?

Is OME better then rancho? Or just that particular instance?

And If I was able to wait and not spend the money I've been saving for this, and got the Frankenlift II Premium how much height would that give me?

And since its pre-assembled...then it would be easier to isntall?

Thanks again guys, I really appreciate all the information. I do want to do it right and I may be able to wait another couple weeks before I buy a lift and save up for the Premium Frankenlight II

Some like OME shocks better but they are valved a little softer, too soft for me
All frankenlifts for gasser will give you the same amount of lift, only difference is in the shocks.
Easier to install, not really only thing is they are preassembled, meaning you do not have to break them down , everyone I have done at home here I take to a neighborhood repair shop, takes them less than 10 minutes and lots easier than me doing it! As far as everything else its all the same. Also make sure you have a couple of rachet straps available , they come in handy, esp. on the drivers side :wink:

JMSMN · **Posted:** Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:52 pm

Was curious so I called BDS and the guy said that the fronts were 430lbs and the rear were 210lbs. What is the rating on the OME HD rear springs.

oddball · **Posted:** Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:33 pm

Too bad no one who has contacted BDS asked why front shocks weren't included in their lift?

JMSMN · **Posted:** Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:41 pm

If you look on their web page it says base kit price. If you look farther it comes with hydraulic shocks, you can upgrade to gas for more money or you can have the ones that come with the base kit excluded for about a hundred less.

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:34 pm

JMSMN wrote:

If you look on their web page it says base kit price. If you look farther it comes with hydraulic shocks, you can upgrade to gas for more money or you can have the ones that come with the base kit excluded for about a hundred less.

But thats just for the rear isn't it??

Hez10 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:57 am **Posts:** 47

tommudd wrote:

JMSMN wrote:

If you look on their web page it says base kit price. If you look farther it comes with hydraulic shocks, you can upgrade to gas for more money or you can have the ones that come with the base kit excluded for about a hundred less.

But thats just for the rear isn't it??

Yes that is just for the rear, you will need to buy new struts for the front.

JMSMN · **Posted:** Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:31 am

Yeah, but its not that big of a deal to buy front shocks.

tommudd · **Posted:** Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:02 am

JMSMN wrote:

Yeah, but its not that big of a deal to buy front shocks.

not a big deal to buy any shocks as far as that goes

TAHOE · **Posted:** Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:14 pm

tommudd wrote:

AHHH Tahoe was drunk that day.....the reason why he didn't notice the BDS shocks that were installed on the rear
:wink:

From what I have seen they are in the 350/375 range or so about like the OME light or medium duty

Thats a wonder since I dont drink

I could have sworn those were Rancho...they were white at least!!!! Guess I was pre-occupied trying to keep my fingers out of those spring compressors

Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong, okay, but it's only been a couple times before :lol:

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