i wanna get a winch but don't know anything about them all help welcome, also mounting and other issues

_________________
04 KJ sport Patriot Blue
Hella 500's
Tail Light Covers
Mopar Rear Tow Hook
Pathfinder AT's

There are various mounting options. You can get a front hidden hitch and use one that way (with the caddy). You can buy the new detours system and mount it permenatly. Buy an ARB bumper, or a Rock Lizard front bumper and to the winch caddy as well.

It comes down to how much you want to spend. I forget the website but someone posted one that had great prices on winches, I think Marty (RockLizard) might know the site.

When I have more time I'll run a search and find it for ya. Unless someone beats me to it.

The hidden hitch and detours route is the cheapest. If I hadn't set myself to getting a new bumper I'd probably do the detours route. Check the vendor's section for his post.

Justin

_________________
2005 Blue KJ Renegade
Too big to fit into most LA parking garages.

my favorite is winchdepot.com

_________________
'05 Black Renegade.
Frankenlifted
front/rear hitch with tow hook/d ring
custom Hella 500 cowl mounted offroad lights.
full tints
Ipod wired up
Possbily the first OIIIO Jeep license plater.
"Full" belly protection....who needs a gas tank skid anyways
Just need a bumper...
http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x180 ... eRenegade/

as other said there are several ways to go but IMO the port a winch thing is not worth a poop
you need to wheel with it in the rear cargo area then when you geet stuck hope that you can get it into the hich and at the same time you need to get out walk to the rear get the winch out the to the front and put it in hook it up winch your self out
unhook winch remove from front and replace into cargo area

Sounds like way to much work for me

I like the arb bumper or that new one that I saw the Detours thing that some one has
It looks good and keeps the winch nice and high also it is less than 1/2 the price of an arb bumper

ADVANTAGE of that format (removable/attach to front hitch receiver): a lot less weight on the front end which can wear out the front suspension faster and possibly lower the front end taking away approach angle. Winch will last longer by not being exposed to the weather very often. Chances are, you will not use the winch very often.

For choices of winches, make sure you look for winches that that are rated to at least 1.5 times the weight of your KJ.

There was a group buy on the Mile Marker PE 8000 about a year ago. I haven't heard anybody complain about them yet. I am still waiting on my front bumper so I have not used mine or wired it up yet.

_________________
===
New KJ Gear - Desert Armor Flak

2004 Renegade Light Khaki - 4" JBA Lift - Rock Lizard Products: Komodo Dragon Rear Bumper, Prototype Winch-mount Front Bumper, Super Skink Sliders - All J's Super Tranny Skid II - 31" Firestone Destination AT's on Moab wheels - Cobra 75W CB w/ stock Antenna mod

[b]Retired, US Military

i think im going with a rock lizard bumper with a winch hook up

_________________
04 KJ sport Patriot Blue
Hella 500's
Tail Light Covers
Mopar Rear Tow Hook
Pathfinder AT's

What AbsoluteRenegade said: Try www.winchdepot.com

_________________
03' Renegade
RockFather II
OME 927's
ARB Bumper
Warn M8000
LT245/75R16MTR
PIAA 520
4' Firestick II
Cobra 18 WX ST
L.O.S.T #000714