Skids...

2006KJSPORT4x4 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:15 pm

Well finally going to be getting skids for the "BSJ" (Big Silver Jeep, 2006 edition) and was wondering what heavy duty armor is AVAILABLE for the undercarriage now that the Super Skid II has been discontinued by ALL Js?? I plan on getting the factory fuel tank, transfer case, and engine skid, knowing that the ALL J skid would have covered the tranny. Or at least I hope that is the correct thought, someone correct me if I am wrong. But now that the SSII is gone where else do I turn for heavy duty protection...and I'm not thinking Trojan here...

Thanks,
Scott

Dje Ryu · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:33 pm

From what I've seen lately, our only options are to make it ourselves, or go to the local 4x4 custom shop and have them made (if possible in your area, of course). Good luck. I've decided to buy a Mopar tranny just skid so I can get the bolt pattern right, and make my own. I guess it'll be for sale once I get the measurements I need from it. God only knows when that'll be, though.

jason thompson · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:59 pm

hold on now
NOT one place makes a tranny skid for the KJ?
and my bet is that mopar will stop making them REAL soon

If this is the case I can have some made but I would like to have say 5-10 people commit to buying them
kinda like a group buy

We have a local guy who built the one that I have on the KJ and it has been OK
not great but it has not bent on the trails I have wheeled
with some mods it will be just as strong if not stronger than any skid out there

let me know
I will be talking with him on Friday when I get my TJ rear locked and get some ideas on cost
I will up date this topic and start a new one then

What else would folks want for their KJ's that no one else makes?
BE REASONABLE and I can talk to him about that also
I am thinking some kind of rear corner gaurds
some kind of lower A-arm skid
an Extended front skid plate
and some kind of muffler skid or guard

sorry for the hijack

2006KJSPORT4x4 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:02 pm

Its all good Jason I was actually gunna ask you about your custom made one you have...so yuo say its held up well but is "so so"? what makes it "so so"?

What about Skid Row, do they make one? I'll be looking shortly...

jason thompson · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:35 pm

2006KJSPORT4x4 wrote:

Its all good Jason I was actually gunna ask you about your custom made one you have...so yuo say its held up well but is "so so"? what makes it "so so"?

What about Skid Row, do they make one? I'll be looking shortly...

the reason I say it is so so
if you remember the trail you rode down here?
that one ,tho mild, is basicaly it no real rocks or even trees have hit it yet
I have taken hills that heled the front wheels up completly but they were just that ,hills not a log wich would point load it in the center
I would add some arms or out riggers dead center to "realy beef it up"

all the stuff I listed above will be built in about a year but if others want it now I may try to work something out
It will mean leaving the jeep with him for a few days while he builds the stuff
problem is that for him to build a "1 off" product takes up his time and cost me wayyyyyyyyyyyy more money
but if we get 5-10 people who want something then it is worth it
2 hours to make a template
1 or 2 hour2 to build
2 more hours to get right
then only 1 or 2 hours each to build

I dont want to eat 6-8 hours of shop labor and if others want them he wont charge the "template and get right" charge's
but he will want a FIRM commitment on a number and I am not going to ask him to do it if no one wants it

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:22 am

jason thompson wrote:

I am thinking some kind of rear corner gaurds
some kind of lower A-arm skid
and some kind of muffler skid or guard

I like the A-arm idea, thats a pretty vunerable spot on yalls KJs, but the corner guards???? How can you come up with a corner guard with a plastic bumper that wraps round to the flare?? And the muffler skid might be kinda silly too...either re-route the muffler higher up by usin a smaller unit or just accept that they'll get bashed. Ive seen most mufflers come down pretty hard and these days they are already pretty solid construction and take a few hits...believe it or not on a TJ i aint hit the muffler too much. I get hung up on the LCA mounts more than anything...good ideas though

jason thompson · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:50 am

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

I am thinking some kind of rear corner gaurds
some kind of lower A-arm skid
and some kind of muffler skid or guard

I like the A-arm idea, thats a pretty vunerable spot on yalls KJs, but the corner guards???? How can you come up with a corner guard with a plastic bumper that wraps round to the flare?? And the muffler skid might be kinda silly too...either re-route the muffler higher up by usin a smaller unit or just accept that they'll get bashed. Ive seen most mufflers come down pretty hard and these days they are already pretty solid construction and take a few hits...believe it or not on a TJ i aint hit the muffler too much. I get hung up on the LCA mounts more than anything...good ideas though

yeah I know the mufffler is strong bu I fear pulling it off
and the corner guards would be like a mini rock slider

What part of the LCA on your TJ the frame or the axle end?
I know that the axle end of mine were getting pounded then I did an Nth* redrill and had some small plate welded to the bottom where I cut off the extra steel ,raised them up about an inch the frame end is also easy just weld some plate to it

Maximum Carnage · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:02 am

jason thompson wrote:

If this is the case I can have some made but I would like to have say 5-10 people commit to buying them
kinda like a group buy

We have a local guy who built the one that I have on the KJ and it has been OK
not great but it has not bent on the trails I have wheeled
with some mods it will be just as strong if not stronger than any skid out there

let me know
I will be talking with him on Friday when I get my TJ rear locked and get some ideas on cost
I will up date this topic and start a new one then

What else would folks want for their KJ's that no one else makes?
BE REASONABLE and I can talk to him about that also
I am thinking some kind of rear corner gaurds
some kind of lower A-arm skid
an Extended front skid plate
and some kind of muffler skid or guard

sorry for the hijack

Just keep us updated. I love group buys.

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:27 pm

jason thompson wrote:

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

I am thinking some kind of rear corner gaurds
some kind of lower A-arm skid
and some kind of muffler skid or guard

I like the A-arm idea, thats a pretty vunerable spot on yalls KJs, but the corner guards???? How can you come up with a corner guard with a plastic bumper that wraps round to the flare?? And the muffler skid might be kinda silly too...either re-route the muffler higher up by usin a smaller unit or just accept that they'll get bashed. Ive seen most mufflers come down pretty hard and these days they are already pretty solid construction and take a few hits...believe it or not on a TJ i aint hit the muffler too much. I get hung up on the LCA mounts more than anything...good ideas though

yeah I know the mufffler is strong bu I fear pulling it off
and the corner guards would be like a mini rock slider

What part of the LCA on your TJ the frame or the axle end?
I know that the axle end of mine were getting pounded then I did an Nth* redrill and had some small plate welded to the bottom where I cut off the extra steel ,raised them up about an inch the frame end is also easy just weld some plate to it

My axle end is gettin is arse kicked everytime I go on the rocks. They have LCA skids that can weld right on to prevent it but Im just too lazy to get em...eventually I will do something like that...I still dont get the corner guard, like a mini rock slider?? Wheres it gona bolt to...??

jason thompson · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:48 pm

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

I am thinking some kind of rear corner gaurds
some kind of lower A-arm skid
and some kind of muffler skid or guard

I like the A-arm idea, thats a pretty vunerable spot on yalls KJs, but the corner guards???? How can you come up with a corner guard with a plastic bumper that wraps round to the flare?? And the muffler skid might be kinda silly too...either re-route the muffler higher up by usin a smaller unit or just accept that they'll get bashed. Ive seen most mufflers come down pretty hard and these days they are already pretty solid construction and take a few hits...believe it or not on a TJ i aint hit the muffler too much. I get hung up on the LCA mounts more than anything...good ideas though

yeah I know the mufffler is strong bu I fear pulling it off
and the corner guards would be like a mini rock slider

What part of the LCA on your TJ the frame or the axle end?
I know that the axle end of mine were getting pounded then I did an Nth* redrill and had some small plate welded to the bottom where I cut off the extra steel ,raised them up about an inch the frame end is also easy just weld some plate to it

My axle end is gettin is arse kicked everytime I go on the rocks. They have LCA skids that can weld right on to prevent it but Im just too lazy to get em...eventually I will do something like that...I still dont get the corner guard, like a mini rock slider?? Wheres it gona bolt to...??

I dont know I have not realy worked out the "mini slider" idea just one of many I have
as far as the LCA thing do this

there are other mods needed but it moves them WAY up
check into Nth* mobility for the full deal
I do know that it will work with ANY lift out there that uses the OE 5 link rear

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:50 pm

jason thompson wrote:

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

I am thinking some kind of rear corner gaurds
some kind of lower A-arm skid
and some kind of muffler skid or guard

I like the A-arm idea, thats a pretty vunerable spot on yalls KJs, but the corner guards???? How can you come up with a corner guard with a plastic bumper that wraps round to the flare?? And the muffler skid might be kinda silly too...either re-route the muffler higher up by usin a smaller unit or just accept that they'll get bashed. Ive seen most mufflers come down pretty hard and these days they are already pretty solid construction and take a few hits...believe it or not on a TJ i aint hit the muffler too much. I get hung up on the LCA mounts more than anything...good ideas though

yeah I know the mufffler is strong bu I fear pulling it off
and the corner guards would be like a mini rock slider

What part of the LCA on your TJ the frame or the axle end?
I know that the axle end of mine were getting pounded then I did an Nth* redrill and had some small plate welded to the bottom where I cut off the extra steel ,raised them up about an inch the frame end is also easy just weld some plate to it

My axle end is gettin is arse kicked everytime I go on the rocks. They have LCA skids that can weld right on to prevent it but Im just too lazy to get em...eventually I will do something like that...I still dont get the corner guard, like a mini rock slider?? Wheres it gona bolt to...??

I dont know I have not realy worked out the "mini slider" idea just one of many I have
as far as the LCA thing do this

there are other mods needed but it moves them WAY up
check into Nth* mobility for the full deal
I do know that it will work with ANY lift out there that uses the OE 5 link rear

Yea thats kinda what I was talkin bout, not the Nth ones but similar, thanks for postin the pics

jason thompson · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:34 pm

Brian
What I am talking about is the fact that they were moved up like an inch or so
the "sliders" are just some plate I had welded to the botom

The big problem is that you also have to move the uppers as well but it gives a better ride if you do all the rear stuff with it
and like I said it can be used with any other lift that is a 5 link

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:37 pm

jason thompson wrote:

Brian
What I am talking about is the fact that they were moved up like an inch or so
the "sliders" are just some plate I had welded to the botom

The big problem is that you also have to move the uppers as well but it gives a better ride if you do all the rear stuff with it
and like I said it can be used with any other lift that is a 5 link

Thanks for the info, Ill be lookin into that

jason thompson · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:44 pm

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

Brian
What I am talking about is the fact that they were moved up like an inch or so
the "sliders" are just some plate I had welded to the botom

The big problem is that you also have to move the uppers as well but it gives a better ride if you do all the rear stuff with it
and like I said it can be used with any other lift that is a 5 link

Thanks for the info, Ill be lookin into that

dont forget to do the shock shift
look at the location of the shocks
way out of harms way

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:51 pm

jason thompson wrote:

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

Brian
What I am talking about is the fact that they were moved up like an inch or so
the "sliders" are just some plate I had welded to the botom

The big problem is that you also have to move the uppers as well but it gives a better ride if you do all the rear stuff with it
and like I said it can be used with any other lift that is a 5 link

Thanks for the info, Ill be lookin into that

dont forget to do the shock shift
look at the location of the shocks
way out of harms way

Yea its way obvious where they used to be on the tube, its a good mod for sure. Did you cut em off with a grinder or have the shop do it?

wheaties · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:21 pm

Hey Jason,

I'm in on one of the skids. It could be possible to use my 05 KJ for a template. I just put the Mopar skids on and all fit the drill holes perfect. So I guess it would make a good template. I know I'm down here in your neck of the woods so whenever you gets around to it let me know ...no hurry... Oh yeah Nolakj could be easily talked into one of these skids too.
And yeah an A arm skid/slider would be cool

jason thompson · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:47 pm

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

kj in a tight spot wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

Brian
What I am talking about is the fact that they were moved up like an inch or so
the "sliders" are just some plate I had welded to the botom

The big problem is that you also have to move the uppers as well but it gives a better ride if you do all the rear stuff with it
and like I said it can be used with any other lift that is a 5 link

Thanks for the info, Ill be lookin into that

dont forget to do the shock shift
look at the location of the shocks
way out of harms way

Yea its way obvious where they used to be on the tube, its a good mod for sure. Did you cut em off with a grinder or have the shop do it?

Had a shop do the shock shifter and weld the plate
I did the rest

jason thompson · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:58 pm

go here for more skid info/update
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=24156

spencevans · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:53 pm

I got my SuperSkid I. Only 4 left.

Rush345 · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:24 am

Many Many years ago My father and I built a Dune Buggy, using a Kit purchased from Sears (yes I said Sears ) this was around 1969, any way we took a 1964 VW stripped to frame and engine then cut 14.5 inches out of the floor pan and mounted the fiberglass body and then the fun and games begin Chrome parts on the engine 3rd and 4th close ratio gears 1300 cc motor converted to 1600 cc. I digress , one of it's cool features was a skid pan under the pancake VW motor and transmission with a oversized hinge. This allowed bullet proof protection with a pull pin to hinge down the pan for oil changes or other under side mods or repair. I'm a shade tree mechanic far from the abilties of say RL or the other fabricators around. But I haven't seen anybody else approach this problem from this angle. Not having wrenched enough on my Libby to make any other possibiltys. I respectfully submit the premiss to my peers who have turned a wrench once or twice on a Liberty. If I'm talking out of my exit port then I aplogize just an idea from you all who have much more experience then I do. I bow to those who have much more experience then I. I post this question out of ignorance on this matter, you can not learn if you do not ask.
THANK-YOU

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