DO NOT DO IT
so here it is
I broke the spider gears in my dana 44 on the TJ
easy fix Powertrax
installed the first one and it worked fine until I go to the very first trail ride I could
it would spin both wheels on grass and all that I could lift a wheel on the rear in 2wd and keep going easy
it was great until I needed it on a good hill climb then it gave up the ghost and all I got was the driver wheel
so I limped home
shipped it back to Richmond they said
Yes it is broken ,here it is back with some new parts
I put it back in
wheeled shortly after that on a more "Extreme" trail with very little issue I should have had no issue but I had some "1 wheel peel" ,driver side, but I could get it to pull on the passenger side most of the time
I went ridding this weekend on what I would call a very easy trail and the 1 wheel peel is back most of the time
some times I can play with it and get both to turn but most time it is 1 ,the driver side
it is so bad that I can smoke that wheel on the street just driving around town
that tire is a 31X11.5 LTB so it gets GOOD traction on dry pavement but it is now worn way more than the other 3

IMO these things are waste of money and I should have gone Detroit from day 1
the $150 I saved just was not worth it
I am now going to be fighting to get a full cash refund and buy a Detroit

Save your self some heart ache and do it right the first time

AMEN!!!!!!

Detroits are some tough lockers,they have been using them in 2500HP drag cars for years so they are pretty darn tough.

I had mine for a few years and it worked just fine. I finally did spin a bearing and the Powertrax went tumbling inside the rear diff. I don't know why yours didn't seem to "lock up" properly? Backlash off a bit or...who knows.

I still think that the DTT works almost as good and has a stonger carrier. If you have to go locker, stay away from "lunchbox" lockers and go Full Detroit

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2006 CRD Sport
Mods: GDE Hot Tune w/ 364#@2000rpm/Air Box /3" Str8 Exhaust/ASFIR Alum Skids/245-75R-16 Cooper STT PRO/OME LIFT w/Clevis & 4 Spring Isos/AirTabs/Rigid 10" S2 LED/4xGuard Ctr Matrix Bumper
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Mine does the same thing. Its does that since day one.

Meh-kick has seen it do it before. He was behind me at livingston when it did it a few times.

It will always lock up when a wheel is lifted but sometimes it wont lock up when its under alot of torque.. Idk what it is but its never really bothered me.

It will do it on road sometimes too. With the old crappy goodyears, I could do a one will burn-out when I would gun it(car coming) and one wheel would spin. It was even worse in the rain. Sometimes one wheel would spin and I wouldnt go anywhere.

Ive been thinking about taking it out before something breaks. I may sell it and save up for a TT...

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Current Jeep: 2004 Jeep Liberty
-Atlantic Blue
-Air Ride Rear Suspension ; OME/Rustys Lift ; Powertrax Locker ; Moog Lower Ball-Joints ; 245/70/16 Yokohama Geolander A/T-S's on MOABS ; Flowmaster 50 SUV
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is the DTT ok to use with a manual?? and is the full detroit that everyone's talking about a LSD or is it always locked?


http://www.4wheelparts.com/PDT263600.aspx is that the Detroit everyones talking about..

or is this the detroit everyones talking about?? i'm just a bit confused! http://www.4wheelparts.com/PDT263647.aspx

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2006 Renegade. Completely stock.

since when does eaton offer the detroit for the 8.25!!!!!! OMFG how did i miss that!!!

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2003 Jeep LIberty Renegade
Rusty's Offroad 2.5in suspension lift w/ rear rancho shocks, Fastman TB, Beam's 4 point harness', custom D rings up front, Custom flowmaster exhaust, JKS Quick sway bar disco's
Hella 500's, General Grabber AT2's on stock rims with spidertrax
coming soon: Corbeau Moab seats, JBA 6"lift

the true track will play good with your manual but will not be as good as a full locker
the Detroit Soft Locker will NOT play nice with your manual but WILL lock up 100% of the time

It will be give and take
if you want the best off road and best on road then you need to spend money on an ARB
if you want to save money then what do you want more
on road go with a True Track
off road go Detroit Soft Locker

One thing with a true detroit locker and a manual trans...it will force you gto become a smooth driver/shifter. You will quickly learn to roll out of the throttle and roll back into it, rather than snapping in and out of the throttle. The stacked backlash of the trans, transfer case, ring/pinion, and locker mechanism can result in a bit of whip, but it is easy to avert by smooth shifting.

Go with the real deal Detroit, you will not be disappointed.

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05 Liberty Rocky Mtn.
02 Renny...Traded for 2010 F150, 8200 GVWR, Plow prep, Max tow
1983 Husq. Model 61, modded
Husq 335 XPT, trail saw, modded

Mine seems to be working great. It always spins both wheels on road and out in the desert. I hope it doesn't break now I already have broken to much other stuff.

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So the TT adds alot of slack also?

Wonder if it adds more or less then the Powertrax? Ive gotten use to rolling off the throttle and rolling on so its not that bad, but I dont like for other people to drive my jeep at all with the locker. Most people have no clue how a locker acts nor what it means to roll off the throttle. They give it gas then let off really fast which makes me want to die really.

Good thing about the power-trax is I can take it out in about an hour.

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Where are you going???
Current Jeep: 2004 Jeep Liberty
-Atlantic Blue
-Air Ride Rear Suspension ; OME/Rustys Lift ; Powertrax Locker ; Moog Lower Ball-Joints ; 245/70/16 Yokohama Geolander A/T-S's on MOABS ; Flowmaster 50 SUV
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I'm assuming we're talking about the no-slip here? I get the impression the non-no slip version is stronger...

Hmm...seems like a pretty strong indictment of a locker that a lot of people have had a lot of success with.

I've had mine for a few years now. Easy install, works perfectly, no problems. I've absolutely loved it on all of the trails I've done with it, in Moab, Big Bear, and local trails.

I know a guy in Moab who's had one in his Sammy for over 10 years without any problems.

If mine ever does break, I'll probably go ahead and regear to 4.10's and install ARBs front and rear, just because...I can. But in the meantime, I'll keep enjoying my Powertrax.

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09 Yellow JK Rubicon LOST #TY050608
TeraFlex 4" long arm lift, 35" BFG KO2s, Tatton driveshaft, Riddler diff covers, RIPP headers,
MBRP off road exhaust, Cobra C75WXST, Little Passengers 3rd row seat
Formerly: 02 White Ltd 4x4 with lots of stuff...
Pics: http://troysterr.com Links & Parts: http://youngs.org/kjparts

i would like to get the full out detroit locker in the back of mine. but im on the road a lot and will all the tire scrubbing be bad on the gears and axle shafts and put a lot of strain on the rear end for tight parking lot turns and stuff? or should i just go with a tru-trac?

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2002 Cactus Green Renegade~OME HD/Rancho
235-85-16 Firestone Destination MT's~Detroit Locker~AL's 4.5 Arms
ARB bumper/Superwinch 9k~PIAA 540 driving lights/PIAA reverse lights~Crane 8.25 diff cover

well it may be only the dana 44
I found another local guy with the same problem
he is on his THIRD powertrax and it is doing the same as mine he has a TJ unlimited so also a dana 44
now that is 5 of 5 failed I think that there is a problem here
to me all the easy install and others saying it wrks great is not going to change my mind that they are no good
I have seen 5 of 5 fail that is really bad for any thing let alone a "Good Locker"

I had them in my old toyota pickups with no problems. One a 6cyl and one a 4cyl both held up good with moderate abuse both on and offroad. I never broke one. Used to torch off 1st then 2nd gear burnouts with the 6cyl, nothing like a 100ft of twin stipes down he street. ah the good old days.


Not mine but my buddy broke a detroit soft locker with a 4cyl toyota under what i would consider severe abuse/wheeling. Cant remember what size tires he had at the time.

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07' Dodge Ram Quad Cab 1500 4x4
Yeah it's got a hemi!

I also had really good luck with the Powertrax. Ran it for 2 years in my 4.0 5spd cherokee and I loved it on and offroad. It made doughnuts much easier also but it did add some slack to the drivetrain.

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Moab with 255/70 Grabber AT2's
Tweaked Rusty's Coil Lift w/ OME LT shocks
Mopar skids & Rocky Road Supersliders
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Retired Jeeps - 84CJ, 90YJ, 97XJ, 86CJ

I love my powertrax no-slip also. I know some speculate about strength, but I have yet to hear of anyone breaking one in a 8.25" KJ. However I've heard plenty of stories about broken front differentials, a few transfer cases, but hardly any powertrax no-slips. I've actually seen the rear axle shaft shear before the locker gave way. I'm sure a detriot is stronger, but the powertax no-slip is quite easy to install, costs less, and plenty strong for most KJ owners with a v6 and 31" tires.

I know there are quite a few people on the board that are happy with their locker. Most complains seem to be about road manners, which is subjective. Seems to me that if you can handle the road manners of off-road tires and 2.5-3" lift than the no-slip won't bother you.

I just blew my PowerTrax tonight on the drive home from work. I hit some rough road and heard a load snap. After that, I could drive any more. I was able to drive a few miles in 4 wheel drive, but then the rear kept making to much noise. I had to stop and get towed home.

I am going to open it up tomorrow morning to see what really happened.

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LostRenegade - Lost # 477
2003 Jeep Liberty Renegade - Silver
Mopar Skids, Skid Row Tranny Skid, Boulder Bars, Frankenlift II, 60" Hi-Lift Jack, K&N 6x9 Air Filter, Magnaflow, Dertoit Locker, 245/75R16 BF Goodrich All Terrains, Al's A-Arms

Why state that you blew your Power Trax, when you don't know for sure what's wrong yet?

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Slightly modified Lt. Khaki 3.7 2004 LTD 4X4. Purchased new 8/6/03.
What I don't have....A Mag light mounted to my seat.
Original Old L.O.S.T. #000354

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I could no longer drive with the rear axel. I had to use 4HI in order to move it. A lot of clanking and crunching coming from the axel. I opened up the differential cover and what a mess. One of the out rings of the PowerTrax was broken in half. One of the halfs were broken into many small pieces. I wm working on getting pictures posted.

Basically, I am looking for a salvaged axel assembly to replace mine.

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LostRenegade - Lost # 477
2003 Jeep Liberty Renegade - Silver
Mopar Skids, Skid Row Tranny Skid, Boulder Bars, Frankenlift II, 60" Hi-Lift Jack, K&N 6x9 Air Filter, Magnaflow, Dertoit Locker, 245/75R16 BF Goodrich All Terrains, Al's A-Arms