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I have an 05 3.7L 4x4 KJ, and I took it in for an oil change at 35,2xx at Jiffy Lube (I know). They pulled out the plastic baffle piece in the filler tube and it had dense mayonaise-looking residue all over the length of it. Even worse, this piece was dripping something that looked like water and my coolant was 1-2qts low. I had only run the car long enough to get it to operating temp since the oil place is near my work (it has been 20's-30's here lately).

Anyway, they cleaned the crap off, put 50/50 in the coolant, and changed the oil. I called the dealership and they said they'll look at it next week. Has anyone else had this issue? From what I understand, it could be an emulsion of oil and water caused by condensation on the cool plastic parts or a leaking head gasket that is allowing coolant into the oil system. I'm hoping for the former.

My Libby has had a rough time in the last year from random tire marks appearing on my front bumper, hitting a dear and needing frame and body work (nobody was hurt, and the deer got up and ran away eventually), and getting vandalized by some punk kids with chunks of cement so more body work. I got new Bridgestone 695 A/T 245/70R16's last weekend to replace my balding oem wrangler 225/75R16's.

Author:	freetolio [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Mayo in the 05 KJ oil fill tube!
I have an 05 3.7L 4x4 KJ, and I took it in for an oil change at 35,2xx at Jiffy Lube (I know). They pulled out the plastic baffle piece in the filler tube and it had dense mayonaise-looking residue all over the length of it. Even worse, this piece was dripping something that looked like water and my coolant was 1-2qts low. I had only run the car long enough to get it to operating temp since the oil place is near my work (it has been 20's-30's here lately). Anyway, they cleaned the crap off, put 50/50 in the coolant, and changed the oil. I called the dealership and they said they'll look at it next week. Has anyone else had this issue? From what I understand, it could be an emulsion of oil and water caused by condensation on the cool plastic parts or a leaking head gasket that is allowing coolant into the oil system. I'm hoping for the former. My Libby has had a rough time in the last year from random tire marks appearing on my front bumper, hitting a dear and needing frame and body work (nobody was hurt, and the deer got up and ran away eventually), and getting vandalized by some punk kids with chunks of cement so more body work. I got new Bridgestone 695 A/T 245/70R16's last weekend to replace my balding oem wrangler 225/75R16's.

Author:	tommudd [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:05 pm ]
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Been lots of discussion on here some get some dont depends on how much you drive etc. Bit it sounds like what a lot of people have been getting, just clean it out and run it.

Author:	indianrefining [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:24 pm ]
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freetolio wrote: I have an 05 3.7L 4x4 KJ, and I took it in for an oil change at 35,2xx at Jiffy Lube (I know). They pulled out the plastic baffle piece in the filler tube and it had dense mayonaise-looking residue all over the length of it. Even worse, this piece was dripping something that looked like water and my coolant was 1-2qts low. I had only run the car long enough to get it to operating temp since the oil place is near my work (it has been 20's-30's here lately). Anyway, they cleaned the crap off, put 50/50 in the coolant, and changed the oil. I called the dealership and they said they'll look at it next week. Has anyone else had this issue? From what I understand, it could be an emulsion of oil and water caused by condensation on the cool plastic parts or a leaking head gasket that is allowing coolant into the oil system. I'm hoping for the former. My Libby has had a rough time in the last year from random tire marks appearing on my front bumper, hitting a dear and needing frame and body work (nobody was hurt, and the deer got up and ran away eventually), and getting vandalized by some punk kids with chunks of cement so more body work. I got new Bridgestone 695 A/T 245/70R16's last weekend to replace my balding oem wrangler 225/75R16's. #1, it's most likely just condensation which mixes with the oil and doesn't cook off if you just take a lot of short trips and, #2, do not deal with a Jiffy Lube. If your coolant was 1-2 quarts low, it was most likely due to a leaky hose/hose clamp.

Author:	Uffe [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:46 pm ]
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There's been reports of the KJ sliming up the oil filler cap when driving only in cold cold weather.

Author:	06BlueLimited [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:39 pm ]
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I had the same problem. I ran a engine flush through just to make sure everything was cleaned out. When I drained the oil, it was straight black, no moisture.

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Author:	jeepzilla [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:13 am ]
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as indianrefining already said .. it is the condensation.. I had the same with my 3.7 on my '06 KJ.. and also my'02 ram with a 4.7... I thought something was wrong like I thought I had a coolant leak. but when I did some talking to some folks I found it was just the condensation.. I guess it might come from the pcv filter or something.. guess thats why they added the plastic thingy.. when they ditched the magnum series engines..

Author:	David Jr [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:54 pm ]
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overnite temps around here hitting 15-17 range but no problems on mine.

Author:	Eddo [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:36 pm ]
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Try changing the PCV valve. Seems to fix the problem for me most of the time.

Author:	sleeve84028 [ Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:08 am ]
Post subject:	beware... my blabbing may cause headaches
What I do: I just clean the gunk off about once a month. Keep the PCV valve up to date and go from there... The build up on condensation is a pretty common problem with the KJ and it's oil filler neck. Just don't let the oil change shops talk you into a "engine" flush every time you go for an oil change. Those things usually have kerosene in them and eat away at rubber gaskets. What I think: The oil filler neck acts like a chimney. As you warm up your engine, some of the hotter air rises to the top of the valve covers. This air is warm enough to rise, it is not hot enough to have evaporated the moisture content contained within. That little chimney that allows a bunch of this semi warm air to get trapped (PCV valve can't evacuate it all). While the air sits there, the ambient temperature and surrounding plastic cools off the air inside the filler neck and then condensation forms. With that ledge design, all the condensation is captured and doesn't fall down into the "hot oil bath" to be thinned back out. Rinse and repeat this heating / cooling effect (if you take a lot of short trips) on a daily basis and you have the build up of milky gunk. What it does: I don't know what the long term effects of this really are. I do know that as a side effect of this process, I developed a routine for cleaning and inspecting my engine compartment to help remove the build up. What I have and will continue to wonder is some of the higher mileage members report SOME mechanical problems with valve springs but who's to say this is the direct cause. I really doubt it is, since in most cases a valve spring failure is caused by a stress failure rather than a "moisture induced" problem.... But again, just me speculating here

Author:	snowsport [ Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:17 am ]
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sounds pretty dang reasonable to me, sleeve!

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