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Author:  sleeve84028 [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:25 pm ]
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For me, I leave the hassle up to a shop. Rear Drums have springs that require drum tools to safely remove and reinstal.. Maybe I'm too weak or lazy - but I go to a shop for drums. (PS - mine need new shoes as well)


To pull the drum you should be able to wiggle it off. you might have to hit it with a rubber malet or tap around the rim from the back side to get the drum off. It's a great idea to pull the drum and clean out the brake dust that builds up in there every once in a while.
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:38 pm ]
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Rear drums are a bit harder then disc brakes,but they are not hard at all.I use no special tools for replacing the shoes,all I use is a phillips screw driver(to reseat the springs)and a pair of needle nose pliers.Make sure you only do one side at a time so you have the other side as a map to get the other side put back together correctly.

Also if the drums don't want to come off very easily use a BFH,it takes alot to damage the drums,swing away.
Author:  VTNomad [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:06 pm ]
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It's been a long time since I've worked on drum brakes. Have you tried taking them apart and clearing the dust out? That can sometimes help keep them quiet.

How many miles do you have on them? They might be due for a change.
Author:  kj924 [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:31 pm ]
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You may have to back the self adjuster off a bit to get the drum off. It all depends how much they have been adjusted.

Usually short shoe to the front, and long shoe to the back. Clean up the self adjuster, lube your shoe contact points on the backing plate, and re-install the brake set per side(as TJKJ POINTED OUT) so as not to get screwed up with the springs and such.
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:27 pm ]
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For those of you that do a bit of off-road and also have drum brakes, is that something on your 'checklist' to clean out between each trip? I typically remove and spray off the skid plate, the wheels, and spray out the engine compartment in between trips... especially if I get in really muddy areas.
If you play in the mud you do want to pull the drums off and clean out the drums often,as do you KJ'ers with the rear discs might want to take the rear rotors off to clean out the parking brake.The outer axle seals are under there also and built up junk will take those seals out and oil soak your brakes.LJS '07 took out my axle seals from one little trip through a mud hole in MOAB,but mud in MOAB is like sand paper when it dries also.
Author:  ATXKJ [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:04 pm ]
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to get the drums off - turn the self adjusters in - as the brakes wear -there's a groove on the edge of the drum that the pad doesn't hit - so there's a step that it has to clear - BFH will work, but that commonly takes off all of the hardware springs, connectors, cable - that you have to reassemble to put it back together - so if you can get the adjusters to turn in it really helps -

(normally - 2 small flat screwdrivers through the adjusting plug - one to hold the self adjust tab up - the other to turn the adjust wheel)
Author:  Xodius [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:55 pm ]
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This past weekend when we did the lift I pulled off the drums. All I had to do was lift the back with a jack, remove tire and pull the drum straight off. No extra tools needed. As for the pads, the last time I changed out drum pads they were on my 1949 Studebaker Starlight Coupe and that was in...1999 maybe, lol. Shortly after that I moved to Vegas and left it in Wisconsin. Maybe 6 months int me being here my parents sent me a check for $300. Curious, I called them up to find out what the $ was for and they sold my baby! I was heart broken and to this day I raze them from time to time. It had a 350 SB, 9" Ford Rear and a TH350 Tranny. Granted about half was in primer and the other half in the original Candy Apple Red, Actually I think it was called something like Holiday Red, a deep deep red. Was a nice car....was :(
Author:  ATXKJ [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:18 pm ]
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If you can pull them straight off - then your self adjusters weren't working
(or you never hit the brakes going backwards - same result)
and the rear drums weren't helping you stop.
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:23 pm ]
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ATXKJ wrote:
If you can pull them straight off - then your self adjusters weren't working
(or you never hit the brakes going backwards - same result)
and the rear drums weren't helping you stop.
Or in most cases the drums have not had a groove in them yet.My rear drums work and they pull straight off,no groove in them yet though either.
Author:  tommudd [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:19 pm ]
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you shouldnt have any groove worn in them at all, if you do then you have ran them way too long. If they are set up correctly then they should slide on and off pretty easy
Drums are as easy to do as disc I think but then thats all I did when I was 17 to 25 years old day in and day out, what a dirty nasty job, no wonder Doctors wonder what that dark stuff is in my lungs !
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:31 pm ]
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tommudd wrote:
you shouldnt have any groove worn in them at all, if you do then you have ran them way too long. If they are set up correctly then they should slide on and off pretty easy
Drums are as easy to do as disc I think but then thats all I did when I was 17 to 25 years old day in and day out, what a dirty nasty job, no wonder Doctors wonder what that dark stuff is in my lungs !
You on asbestes watch to? Been on it myself after all those airbrake 5 tons still using asbestes lined shoes still in the military.
Author:  tommudd [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:38 pm ]
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tjkj2002 wrote:
tommudd wrote:
you shouldnt have any groove worn in them at all, if you do then you have ran them way too long. If they are set up correctly then they should slide on and off pretty easy
Drums are as easy to do as disc I think but then thats all I did when I was 17 to 25 years old day in and day out, what a dirty nasty job, no wonder Doctors wonder what that dark stuff is in my lungs !
You on asbestes watch to? Been on it myself after all those airbrake 5 tons still using asbestes lined shoes still in the military.


yep on the asbestos watch, :x well plus working in a body shop at nights for a buddy of mine and you know no common sense like wearing any type of resperator when painting so my lungs will never rot away...just harden up, good old laquer paint :lol: :lol:
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:30 pm ]
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yellocoyote wrote:
Thanks for your help, all. The drums were very easy to pull off... but, unfortunately it wasn't just dirt creating the grinding sound. The left rear shoe was shot. I had to leave that drum at the local NAPA to be turned, and order the pair of shoes to be delivered to the store tomorrow. I'm hoping the weather holds out for tomorrow afternoon so it can be put back together... we're expecting intermittent storms. :?
It is way better doing yourself isn't it? And not all that hard.Just one word of advice,get the rear drum accesory pack from Napa also,it has all new springs for the rear drums(both sides),those springs do wear out and it only cost's about $12(well that's what I paid 2 years ago when I did mine).
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