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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:44 pm 
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has anyone found a way to make the rear seats in the 02-07's fold flat? as u all know they stick up about 20deg or more and it's sometimes a pain. i was thinking maybe if u can go from underneath and cleanly remove some of the padding, this could allow for a couple extra inches to fold down almost flat.. anyone attempted this yet or do u have any other tricks for achieving this?

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"without knowing Scarlet reopens the REMOVE YOUR BACKSEAT COMPLETELY AND BUILD IN A DECK discussion"

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aaah! i know, ive seen that. and it looks reeeally great. it's just that somtimes i have to have passengers, so removing the back seats aren't an option. believe me...if i could i would..that looks awesome! moving on..... 8)

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idk but Ive been wondering about it too be sure to let me know if you figure any thing out

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My dads 06's CRD folds flat, however it's no where near as comfortable to sit there for any amount of time.

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I've never really been bothered by my seats not folding completely flat...but I've been toying about with deleting the back seat. Doesn't get used anyway


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Have you taken off the head rests and folded them down? It's easy to take them off and put back on.

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The "newer KJ's fold flat (not perfectly flat but a whole lot more than the older KJ's). I wonder if you can replace the older seats with newer ones?

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Ah, a chance to speculate in something I know very little about. Just adding two cents, because I fold down the seat flat to sleep with midnight arrivals at the trailhead. Have to remove the cargo gear of course, and the HiLift under the bench seat, and position the vehicle head high in the back to level out the 20 degrees.

If you remove cushion material, your rear passenger's posterior will feel it after a couple hours. Maybe reupholstering with at Tempur-pedic stuff would work. If you shortened the bench legs an inch, the seatback might not catch their latchback, and your passenger's posterior and thighs would notice.

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hmm..maybe if padding was removed, maybe throw a couple seat cushions in the back when the seats are going to be used..could work. I have to check out underneath the seats to see if there's even a clean way to remove material. Anyone ever take this apart?

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I had mine all apart but never took pictures, it all comes out in a couple of pieces, rip it out and see what you think, I would of let mine out but my 76 year old mother and 81 year old step father still like to go out on some old roads etc every now and again :wink:

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the padding pieces u mention, are they stacked on top of each other flat, or chunky sections of pad positioned next to each other?

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Have you taken off the head rests and folded them down? It's easy to take them off and put back on.

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That's what I do every time I lay them down now. Since my son and I are the primary passengers in this vehicle and we are both 6 footers the front seats are almost all the way back all the time. pull the headrests and they fold right down, however they still don't go flat. I would say they are at least 10 or 15 degrees off.

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Taking the head rests off, WOW I did that at 10 miles and threw them away, mean we are suppose to put them back on always?? :shock:

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You would do that Tom! I have my back seats in a storage room. I can take some pictures if the pretty one wants some.

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naaa i tried that a while ago...didn't work.

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Just remember that if you go with the lower seat option, you will probably not be able to store a hi-lift under the back seat.

My suggestion: pick up a twin size air mattress, stuff it between the wells, air up to suit and hit the hay. :D

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I've never tried this but how about using some ratchet straps? you may have to remove the rear seat and cut a portion of the rear cargo lining to make the full loop but it's worth a try if you really need them flat. You ran a ratchet strap behind the rear seat and then below the rear seat, pull it out the front of the rear seat. When you fold them down just connect the ratchet and use those to keep the seats compressed. When you're not using them just keep them tucked under the seat.

You might want to try using 2 per seat so you don't crack anything within the seat. This also assumes that the seat hinge can fold 90 degrees without cracking and that the only issue is too much padding within the seats themselves.

Make sure you clear out any bulky items from beneath the seat before you fold them flat. I have a oversized bottle jack, tow straps, ratchet straps and jumper cables beneath my seats and they won't fold 45 degrees without moving some of that stuff.

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