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 Post subject: More Frankenlift questions
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:54 pm 
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I have been trying to sort thru all the lift post before I get a lift and still have questions/concerns. I just got Rubicon takeoffs from craigslist and have money saved up. So I’m looking to get this done real soon. I just need to convince myself this is the way to go. If you wanted to do the lift correctly what else would you do? I want to do it right the first time.

Would you get Al’s arms? How much complexity does it add to the install? Would you cut the pockets if you get the 4.5's?

Should you get extend the brake lines? Jeep in by Al has some stainless steel lines for a 2.5" lift and rear lines if you have rear disks calipers? Do you have to order both if get a lift and have rear disk calipers?

Extended bump stop/ hockey pucks? I don't get this at all just no its an issue.

Does adding a winch and bumper or detours back bone effect which frankenlift you should pick?

Would you honestly attempt to do this yourself if it is your only vehicle and you have no idea what you’re doing and are horrible at reading directions?

Would you eventually re gear if you run 245/75/16 or just anything bigger or just would you just drive in right lane going up hills. I like to drive fast and already get the rpm really high.

Thanks for any help!

ps did i forget anything?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:30 pm 
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louder2kj wrote:
I have been trying to sort thru all the lift post before I get a lift and still have questions/concerns. I just got Rubicon takeoffs from craigslist and have money saved up. So I’m looking to get this done real soon. I just need to convince myself this is the way to go. If you wanted to do the lift correctly what else would you do? I want to do it right the first time.


Don't worry The Frankenlift is the best proven lift out there, the next closest thing is a straight OME. But with the Frankie it comes pre assembled, and it sits a tad higher.

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Would you get Al’s arms? How much complexity does it add to the install? Would you cut the pockets if you get the 4.5's?


The A arms aren't necessary, but they help bring the alignment back into specs. If you do get the 4.5's it's an easy thing to cut the pockets. They are easy to install, 4 more bolts and your done.

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Should you get extend the brake lines? Jeep in by Al has some stainless steel lines for a 2.5" lift and rear lines if you have rear disks calipers? Do you have to order both if get a lift and have rear disk calipers?


Not needed unless you have an 05+, and then it will be the rear only (not sure of your year). If you do, All J's has a rear brake line extender bracket thingy that does what it needs to get you right, think it's 30 bucks.

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Extended bump stop/ hockey pucks? I don't get this at all just no its an issue.


The Frankie comes with new bump stops for the rear, Front is not needed, but I would recommend the TerraFlex ones to keep you from over compressing, or blowing a strut by accident.

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Does adding a winch and bumper or detours back bone effect which frankenlift you should pick?


Nope, They are essentially all the same, only difference being what brand struts and shocks you want.

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Would you honestly attempt to do this yourself if it is your only vehicle and you have no idea what you’re doing and are horrible at reading directions?


Yep, many people (myself included) have installed this in their driveway. Only a set of basic tools are required, and depending if you have some one helping you between 3-5 hours of your time.

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Would you eventually re gear if you run 245/75/16 or just anything bigger or just would you just drive in right lane going up hills. I like to drive fast and already get the rpm really high.


I still run the 3.73's and 265/75's and I do fine... But in your neck of the country, the hills are a little bit bigger... I would recommend going down to 4.10's.

louder2kj wrote:
ps did i forget anything?


Don't think so, but you may consider a locker while you are getting the gears done.

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Should you get extend the brake lines? Jeep in by Al has some stainless steel lines for a 2.5" lift and rear lines if you have rear disks calipers? Do you have to order both if get a lift and have rear disk calipers?


Not needed unless you have an 05+, and then it will be the rear only (not sure of your year). If you do, All J's has a rear brake line extender bracket thingy that does what it needs to get you right, think it's 30 bucks.

I would highly recommend extending the rear brake line,or at least making a 2"-3" drop bracket for the OEM line.I was stretching my rear brake line before I fully flexed the rear end on my '02 KJ,even with the shorter OME N132 rear shocks,which could have led to a major accident if I didn't catch it whne I did.I have the JBA braided lines now(only due to rubber line flex,I already had a drop braket for my rear line) and the rear one almost is to short with the Rancho 17004's in the rear.The front lines are not needed since the OEM ones are plenty long enough but if you want a little better brake pedal feel I'd go for the braided lines,less likely to hurt them offroad also then the rubber OEM lines.


Oh and the braided lines JBA sells are made by Classic Tube,they are high quility and DOT approved.


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The All J's drop bracket is 2" if I remember correctly. Haven''t looked at in a long time...

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 Post subject: Re: More Frankenlift questions
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daspes wrote:
louder2kj wrote:
I have been trying to sort thru all the lift post before I get a lift and still have questions/concerns. I just got Rubicon takeoffs from craigslist and have money saved up. So I’m looking to get this done real soon. I just need to convince myself this is the way to go. If you wanted to do the lift correctly what else would you do? I want to do it right the first time.


Don't worry The Frankenlift is the best proven lift out there, the next closest thing is a straight OME. But with the Frankie it comes pre assembled, and it sits a tad higher.

louder2kj wrote:
Would you get Al’s arms? How much complexity does it add to the install? Would you cut the pockets if you get the 4.5's?


The A arms aren't necessary, but they help bring the alignment back into specs. If you do get the 4.5's it's an easy thing to cut the pockets. They are easy to install, 4 more bolts and your done.

louder2kj wrote:
Should you get extend the brake lines? Jeep in by Al has some stainless steel lines for a 2.5" lift and rear lines if you have rear disks calipers? Do you have to order both if get a lift and have rear disk calipers?


Not needed unless you have an 05+, and then it will be the rear only (not sure of your year). If you do, All J's has a rear brake line extender bracket thingy that does what it needs to get you right, think it's 30 bucks.

louder2kj wrote:
Extended bump stop/ hockey pucks? I don't get this at all just no its an issue.


The Frankie comes with new bump stops for the rear, Front is not needed, but I would recommend the TerraFlex ones to keep you from over compressing, or blowing a strut by accident.

louder2kj wrote:
Does adding a winch and bumper or detours back bone effect which frankenlift you should pick?


Nope, They are essentially all the same, only difference being what brand struts and shocks you want.

louder2kj wrote:
Would you honestly attempt to do this yourself if it is your only vehicle and you have no idea what you’re doing and are horrible at reading directions?


Yep, many people (myself included) have installed this in their driveway. Only a set of basic tools are required, and depending if you have some one helping you between 3-5 hours of your time.

louder2kj wrote:
Would you eventually re gear if you run 245/75/16 or just anything bigger or just would you just drive in right lane going up hills. I like to drive fast and already get the rpm really high.


I still run the 3.73's and 265/75's and I do fine... But in your neck of the country, the hills are a little bit bigger... I would recommend going down to 4.10's.

louder2kj wrote:
ps did i forget anything?


Don't think so, but you may consider a locker while you are getting the gears done.


X2. What he said. :wink: :wink:

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So I should also get extended rear brake lines if I get a Frankenlift? :shock:

What else is recommended?

I fear the expenditures will never end.

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I thought you only needed the extended brake lines on the 06+???

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Daspes hit the nail on the head.. listen to everything he told ya! i have an 06 and got the brake line relocation bracket.. and have never had any problems. i am also running the stock a-arms and gears with 265/75's and never had a problem and my KJ drives straight as an arrow as far as alignment goes. lift if first.. then cross those bridges as you come to them

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I have never had any issues with my brake lines and I don't run the extensions on my 2005. I did some good flexing of my rear and checked and they have been fine and not close to having issues.

Also, I run the stock a arms and have had zero issues with alignment, rub and spring contact.

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I ran mine for over 60,000 and the stock arms, just had the opportunity to upgrade so I did, made it a little easier to align as well, but never had a problem with tire wear anyways, stock arms are still good and tight hanging in the rafters! :wink:

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Thanks for the help everyone.
One more question: If I lift it myself it would be in Colorado Springs, is it ok to drive around 90 miles to Denver before I get an alignment done?


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Thanks for the help everyone.
One more question: If I lift it myself it would be in Colorado Springs, is it ok to drive around 90 miles to Denver before I get an alignment done?


Why take it all the way to Denver. Take it to the Firestone near Powers and Stetson Hills (it is the one with the Tutt address). Tell them Marty from Rock Lizard Fabrications sent you to get a lifetime alignment. Not really any special deals for it, but I send the KJ's we lift up there now. And it is a pretty good idea to get the lifetime alignment, as you will want to align it again after a few weeks after it settles.

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I took mine to that same Firestone and purchased the lifetime alignment. It was around $150 and for the life of the Jeep.
I had my aligned right after the life then about 3 weeks later. Firestone sends a card every few months letting me know I can bring it back anytime and to any Firestone. They have never tried to sell or tell me I need to spend any other money there. I have had real good luck with them.

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