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Author:  dirt pig [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:20 am ]
Post subject:  Mythbuster Wanted
Hello all,
I'm trying to confirm if the KJ has:

a) Metallic Windscreen
b) Harley Davidson Head lights

I've just acquired a 2006 KJ and the guys at work have been telling me this.
Is this true?
Author:  Fulltimer [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:37 am ]
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No, but I wouldn't mind if they sounded like a Harley!

Terry
Author:  tommudd [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mythbuster Wanted
dirt pig wrote:
Hello all,
I'm trying to confirm if the KJ has:

a) Metallic Windscreen
b) Harley Davidson Head lights

I've just acquired a 2006 KJ and the guys at work have been telling me this.
Is this true?


tell the guys at work they are FOS

they are just messing with you and the great vehicle you have just purchased :wink:
Author:  JL Rockies [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:23 pm ]
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it's possible a Harley has the same head light bulb as the KJ
Author:  JPaul [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:24 pm ]
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JL Rockies wrote:
it's possible a Harley has the same head light bulb as the KJ


probably, just like a million other cars out on the road.

Dirt pig, what do you mean by "a metallic windscreen"???
Author:  tan's2002kjlimited [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:52 pm ]
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JPaul wrote:
JL Rockies wrote:
it's possible a Harley has the same head light bulb as the KJ


probably, just like a million other cars out on the road.

Dirt pig, what do you mean by "a metallic windscreen"???


He's from Austrailia, so I'm sure he's refering to the windshield.
Author:  jeepskate [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:17 pm ]
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tan's2002kjlimited wrote:
JPaul wrote:
JL Rockies wrote:
it's possible a Harley has the same head light bulb as the KJ


probably, just like a million other cars out on the road.

Dirt pig, what do you mean by "a metallic windscreen"???


He's from Austrailia, so I'm sure he's refering to the windshield.


I was puzzled by the "metallic" part, not the "windscreen." Maybe that's what JL Rockies was asking?
Author:  corwyyn [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:54 pm ]
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JPaul wrote:
Dirt pig, what do you mean by "a metallic windscreen"???


Some auto makers are now incorporating a thin layer of metal (gold normally) in windshields to help reflect sunlight and keep auto interiors cool - it's similar to what you see on the canopies of fighter jets :
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The film is usually barely noticeable from the outside; from the inside the view out is the same as a standard windshield. The downside is that it also reflects some RF signals, such as GPS or those nifty little 'fastpass' transmitters for toll roads. As far as I know Jeep is not equipping vehicles with these but I'll try to find out.
Author:  Guest [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:03 pm ]
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corwyyn wrote:
JPaul wrote:
Dirt pig, what do you mean by "a metallic windscreen"???


Some auto makers are now incorporating a thin layer of metal (gold normally) in windshields to help reflect sunlight and keep auto interiors cool - it's similar to what you see on the canopies of fighter jets :
Image

The film is usually barely noticeable from the outside; from the inside the view out is the same as a standard windshield. The downside is that it also reflects some RF signals, such as GPS or those nifty little 'fastpass' transmitters for toll roads. As far as I know Jeep is not equipping vehicles with these but I'll try to find out.


Ford and RR/Bentley have also done this back in the '80s. Ford stopped when they started delaminating in the winter. RR/Bentley just made it better and raised their cars' prices $6,000 (which nobody noticed :lol: )
Author:  InCommando [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:34 pm ]
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Total leg-pull. Metallic winsdcreen implying that it is metal. They are having him on.
Author:  dirt pig [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:42 pm ]
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When I was making reference to a "metallic windshield", I was relating it to the
fact that there is no radio aerial. I know newer BMW's have this and it does interfere with RFID devices.
Author:  corwyyn [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:53 pm ]
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dirt pig wrote:
When I was making reference to a "metallic windshield", I was relating it to the
fact that there is no radio aerial. I know newer BMW's have this and it does interfere with RFID devices.

Ah, I see. I believe all export KJs have the radio aerial (antenna) in the right rear quarter-window, but I always thought that was primarily due to having the side repeater lights mounted where the aerial and 'Trail Rated' badges would be on a U.S. version.
Author:  CrossBones [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:03 pm ]
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Fulltimer wrote:
No, but I wouldn't mind if they sounded like a Harley!

Not even I could do that. :wink:

FWIW... Osram Sylvania Xenon - p/n 67864-04 or 67863-04 made especially for H-D.
Author:  JPaul [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:33 pm ]
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Yeah, I was wondering about the "metallic" part. I know what a windscreen is.

Nope, not metallic. BTW, I don't believe that they use the film of gold in the windshield for the radio antenna. Instead there is probably a strip of metal that runs across the top of the windshield that acts as the antenna. I don't think that you can't use a sheet of metal as the antenna itself, only as a reflector. The antenna itself still has to be a wire of some type. UHF might be one part of the spectrum that can use sheets of metal as antenna's, but FM radio needs it to be a wire of some kind. I had a Nissan pickup that had both the aerial and the windshield antenna, the radio could switch back and forth depending on which one had the better signal. The antenna in the windshield was like what is used for the rear defroster.

Even if it could be used as an antenna, they would have to make sure it is the right size, otehrwsie it will work as well as using a soda can for an antenna. Antenna's need to be tuned to the frequencies they are recieveing and/or transmitting. Otherwise they don't work near as well. Ask anyone that has tried tuning a CB antenna, they'll tell you what a difference an inch can make.

I know that some Buick's had gold film in the windshields. It was used as a defroster for the front. My friend said his worked pretty well. I don't know about reflecting any light, but it probably was a part of them using it.
Author:  dirt pig [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:11 am ]
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Spoke to my local Jeep dealership about the windscreen/windshield.
He confirmed that it is not metallic and the aerial is on the RH rear side glass.
But he did stipulate that when installing an RFID transponder, make sure that it sits
below the black rubbery edgeing on the top of the windscreen.
Author:  Pablo [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:44 pm ]
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dirt pig wrote:
Spoke to my local Jeep dealership about the windscreen/windshield.
He confirmed that it is not metallic and the aerial is on the RH rear side glass.
But he did stipulate that when installing an RFID transponder, make sure that it sits
below the black rubbery edgeing on the top of the windscreen.


...or a radar detector
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